Cannot Revise Completed Design

[Anonymous]

Sorry for second post, marked a helpful interim post as the solution and killed the thread.

I have packaged two PC boards in a case. I designed the box by grabbing the 3D model of the box from the manufacturer, importing the circular connector board, projecting the holes onto the lid, cutting holes then joining standard fasteners and the boards working my way from the lid up.

When preparing the assembly drawings I noticed that the boards are off center by about 25 mils. The box, both boards and all fasteners are external components. The attached file shows the section where you can see the vertical misalignment.

I have tried manipulating the sketch on the lid, no joy. Moving the PC board had no effect. Any ideas welcome. The project link is http://a360.co/2esjGbz password navsea

Many thanks for any help offered!

[TMC.Engineering]

@Anonymous, I looked at your model and there are a lot of things going on.  The overall organization needs a good deal of help.  I noticed there are in fact 2 distinct lid bodies in different linked components.  there are a ton of warnings and other issues in the linked parts so I am not surprised you are having issues.  I will try to fins some time and try to unravel some of the problems

[TMC.Engineering]

sorry double post

[TrippyLighting]

No need to re-post a thread. Just ask a moderator or Autodesk EE to remove the "solution accepted" status.

I re-breathed live into the thread.

[Anonymous]

Hi Timm, This was my first attempt. I appreciate your willingness to jump in and fix it. Perhaps a better solution for both of us is for you to tell me how to reorganize it and I will start from scratch. This would help me learn the tool, I want to become good at this because I often need to model mechanical things in my electronics projects.

[TMC.Engineering · Accepted solution]

Hi @Anonymous

I played with you design a bit and I decided to rework your files to best show how I would work on it.  I will point out that not all you holes line up.  they are off a little.  as a result the adapter for the wall adapter does not line up with the pcb it attaches to.

take a look at the model I did.  

I broke almost all of the x-refs, except hardware. anything that gets modified like the Hammond enclosure I break the link.  screws and things I kept the link.

Edit: I can add you to the project if you want to see the comments I made.  I would need you email.

How I organized the data

[TrippyLighting]

Looking this design, the first thing I would not recommend to work exclusively wit linked components. To be honest for this design there is likely no reason to work with linked components at all.

Fusion 360 does not separate between assembly and part/component files and a complex assembly with all needed components and joints can be built in a single file.

It can really slow the design process down having to constantly edit and update external components. Standard catalog parts that are not going to be modified should be inserted one, the link broken and then use copy/paste to create the number instances needed. This is faster than importing them one-by-one from the data panel and breaking the link.

The second thing is that you should probably be naming your joints. While you can right-click on a joint and show the components involved in a joint I find that to be cumbersome and slower than just reading the description.

After breaking all the links  one warning and one error appear.

The error is in the Active Remote Adapter Box and indicates a problem with RigidGroup1. Alas, RigidGroup1 cannot be found in the Browser tree. That's certainly a bug. 

Looking at the stand-alone assembly that same error is present, so it does not have anything to do with inserting the assembly into another one and breaking the link.

Maybe @jeff_strater or @innovatenate can take a look at this.

Anyway, to fix that I simply deleted the offending rigid joint from the timeline and then applied a rigid joint to the entire assembly of Active Remote Adapter Case v1

In general every assembly should have one component grounded. it is important that it is a component, not an assembly. As such i grounded the Active Remote Adapter Base v1 in Active Remote Adapter Case v1.

Something else you should not do at is to have an assembly with one or more bodies at th same structure level with other  components and assemblies.

The body in the screenshot below should be a component:

[innovatenate]

Thank you for the tag @TrippyLighting. I've logged FUS-28379 to report the issue with the RigidGroup, I or another member of the team may follow up with our findings. 

If I can provide any help, please let me know.

Thanks,

[Anonymous]

Thanks for spending time on this. My email is William.tribley@gdit.com

[Anonymous]

Thank you for this explanation. I am printing this entire thread to pdf as a reference for my next project. Thanks to all those posting on this thread I will have a well documented mechanical design to send to vendors.