cannot edit a model

cannot edit a model

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cannot edit a model

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I edit my models manually, sort of freestyle.  I run into problems constantly, like no intersection for body split (happens often when there are tons of intersections).  Generally when I make a change I try things a lot of different ways until I find one that doesn't give an error.  Now I have a design that I can't edit.  I've tried everything.  See the enclosed model.

 

I can't do anything with the base or anything on it.  If I could delete the base (2.4 mm thick bottom) I could continue but I am stuck now.  Can someone tell me how I can fix it?  I've tried things all day long with no luck.

  

 

 

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Q1. Do you want to learn robust techniques that transfer to any other modeling software (direct modeling or parametric)?  Yes or no!

 

Not a high priority.

 

Q2:  I have no background in cam design.  I'm using only 3D printing for our products.

 

Confession:  I do the hardware design, design circuits, layout PCBs, write the software, etc.  I'm the only technical person in the start-up.   So a large part of my problem is my brain isn't 100% focused on F360 as I'm sure many of you are.

 

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mark
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 You just have to be willing to learn a little bit. 

 

I am learning slowly and most by accident.  I just discovered I can delete holes with the delete key after using F360 for 3 or 4 years.

 

Thanks for everyone's detailed replies.  I now understand that I could design error-free with some education and the will-power to do it right.  So the answer to my original post is clear now.

 

P.S. I came up with an idea for fixing messed-up models like mine.  Maybe a utility could go through the entire design and round off all points/vertices to 0.1 mm or resolution of choice.  Existing mating parts would still mate and vice-versa.

 

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davebYYPCU
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You may do better than 0.1 units, by utilising Fusion’s own capability in the first place, 

 

Most commands in the create menu, use “ To Object “, or a Distance / Angle parameter in its dialogue box.  You seem happy to drag the handle, instead.

 

If you have the capability to find those mismatches, then you also are capable of not making them.  

I don’t get it, don’t do it well the first time, (ambivalent to offers of help) and write a script to make it nearly right.

 

Not my cuppa.

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mark
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> Unfortunately “To Object“ only works half the time.

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davebYYPCU
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Then the effort should go to fixing that, 

 

files and screencast where it fails will get appropriate action, in my experience.

 

 

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TheCADWhisperer
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@mark wrote:

Q1. Do you want to learn robust techniques that transfer to any other modeling software (direct modeling or parametric)?  Yes or no!

 

Not a high priority.


So, learning Fusion skills that will transfer to CAD program is not a high priority.

OK, I will move on to others who do have an interest in learning.

Good luck with your startup.

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mark
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This thread drifted off-course.  I started the thread to find out how to fix my screwed-up model.  As I said before I now understand that F360 requires an education to avoid the troubles I have.  F360 requires a strict methodology to keep working.  I don't have time for an education so I'll continue to stumble along.

 

Thanks everyone for spending so much time helping me.

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TheCADWhisperer
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@mark wrote:

I don't have time for an education so I'll continue to stumble along.


I think you would find that it takes far less time to learn the BORN Technique than you might think, and you are already working wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy too hard and wasting time.  Get Lazy!  

On your next design.

1. Turn on Capture History.

2. Create one and only one sketch and then Attach your file here.

 

The pros will comment and then you move to the next step.

Within 30 minutes you will have mastered the BORN Technique in Fusion 360 and all future models will be quick and rock solid robust.

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chrisplyler
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@mark wrote:

I don't have time for an education so I'll continue to stumble along.


 

Yeah, that will be faster. Two weeks to produce a two hour part. Stumbling along seems like the best time saver ever!

 

 

 

 

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mark
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Two weeks to produce a two hour part. 

 

I was exaggerating a lot, but it would take me a few days.

 

I have never heard of BORN.  I'll google it.

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MoshiurRashid
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I think you should start over doing it again...

Moshiur Rashid
Autodesk Certified Instructor
ACP | CSWE
https://www.autodesk.com/expert-elite/overview

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chrisplyler
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@mark wrote:

 

I was exaggerating a lot, but it would take me a few days.


 

Sure, the first time. You'll probably screw up a dozen times. Each time you'll run back to youtube videos, the help files/tutorials, and this forum trying to figure out where you went wrong and how to fix it. You might even start over from scratch a few times. But all this will teach you.

 

The NEXT time you've got a complex part to do, it will take you a few hours. The time after that, it will take you less. And for the years that your successful business lasts, the hours saved will be a thousand times the hours invested learning.

 

Even if you don't see a need to redo this part, start doing it anyway as a learning exercise when you've got a free thirty minutes before bedtime or whatever. Each time you get stuck, or even wonder what the best approach might be to move forward, start a new thread and ask us.

 

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lastreaction17
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@mark wrote:

Riley recommends Creo.

 

Thanks but we are a start-up with no financing and $2200 is not affordable right now.


Yes that's my issue also. We are also a start up and we can't afford that much now!

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lastreaction17
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@mark wrote:

Riley recommends Creo.

 

Thanks but we are a start-up with no financing and $2200 is not affordable right now.


That's the main issue. We are also a star up and we can't afford that much now!

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g-andresen
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Hi,


@lastreaction17 wrote:

@mark wrote:

Riley recommends Creo.

 

Thanks but we are a start-up with no financing and $2200 is not affordable right now.


That's the main issue. We are also a star up and we can't afford that much now!


thats Creo 2019 > $2200

 

What is it about for you with Fusion?

 

günther

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Message 36 of 36

TheCADWhisperer
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@lastreaction17 

CAD is CAD

Any and all models can be edited.

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