Add Reference Geometry to Drawing

Add Reference Geometry to Drawing

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Add Reference Geometry to Drawing

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How can I dimension to show the 40° angle?

The way that the object is set up, seems to only allow dimensioning to show a 50° or 130° angle.

See attached file for demo version.

 

Is there a way to add geometry in a drawing to use as reference line. I've seen how to add centerlines and extensions, but those are not useful for this; unless there is something I don't know about them.

 

Thanks in advance,

Delain

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jhackney1972
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The only way to get this dimension is to go into the design environment and add a very short line to your model.  You can show this sketch in the 2D Drawing and dimension to it.

 

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delaing
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This is excellent!

However, mine seems to be behaving opposite from yours.

To see the line, I have to turn the Sketch in Drawing mode Off.

 

snapshot-02.png

 

Not sure what I did wrong.

 

Delain

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ClintBrown3D
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Hi @delaing 

 

The easiest way to dimension that would be to use the geometry thats already there:

2022-03-16_12h35_41.png

 

However, you can use the sketch you originally used as a reference in the model, change it from construction, and you can re-use it on the drawing:

2022-03-16_12h34_45.gif

 

 


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jhackney1972
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The small line sketch is placed in the Design Environment not the 2D Drawing.  Since it is placed in the Design Environment, the sketch must be turned on in drawing to see the line.  Take a look at this one with a lot more detail.

 

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@jhackney1972 

Yeah, so sorry it seemed you were needing to over-explain to a newb.

Before you made the second cast, I had indeed set up the small line on its own sketch in Design similar to how you did. I still cannot figure out why I was having issues with it not showing up in Drawing (unless I had the Sketch off).

 

Doing it a second time did give me the expected result.

And I learned that you have to leave that Sketch on in Drawing or you get an error to re-associate. Went back to your cast and heard your quick mention to leave that Sketch on. Almost missed it.

You also made a remark about ensuring I draw the short line in Design and not Drawing. As that lead to my initial question with this post, I'm not sure how I could draw a line in Drawing. So, that remark seemed disconnected perhaps.

 

This is an excellent tip. Thank you

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delaing
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@ClintBrown3D 

Hey Clint, thanks for throwing in on this.

I'm not able to follow your suggestion completely since I can't seem to control the playback speed of your video. I can't focus in on your sequence.

Doesn't seem you're using Screencast. Are there controls with your video that I can't see so I can throttle the playback?

 

Delain

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jhackney1972
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You can sketch in the 2D Drawing environment, that is why I made the comment to be sure you were sketching in the design environment.  In the Screencast below I will show you that sketching in the 2D Drawing environment is possible but you normal do not want to do it.

 

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@jhackney1972 

So, I was trying to use the method you taught me with using a sketch line in Design and to use it in Drawing as a reference object. In this case, it is supposed to represent the plywood sheet and board I would use to create a cutting diagram for building this bat house.

 

When I turn on the sketches in Drawing, they appear dashed.

Why?

bat house drawing dashed outlines.jpg

I want to be able to dimension off of the two board outlines in the Drawing and have them show as solid lines.

 

I created a Derived design to create the nested(?) version of the bat house to lay out the pieces flat. Saw this in a tutorial for creating nested versions of designs.

Exporting this created the f3z file, which I did not understand, but sending here since this is the only way I could share this for the question. Let me know if there is another way to share without using an f3z type. 

 

Thank you,

Delain

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jhackney1972
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All model sketches, which are not construction lines, will appear in the drawing as phantom lines, this is normal and cannot be changed, at this time, in Fusion 360.  The one you used in your drawing, for the angle dimension, was so short you did not realize it.

 

As far as the F3Z file, when you exported the 2D drawing it also had to export the model, which it is depend on, so you get this type of file.  When exporting an file, that contains external references, Fusion 360 will create a F3Z file.  One thing you need to be aware of, to open an F3Z file you must Upload it to a Cloud folder before you can open it.  This allows it to expand and upload all the internally referenced files.

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delaing
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@jhackney1972 

"will appear in the drawing as phantom lines..."

Ahhh, okay then.

 

I'll experiment with other options then for showing the cut diagrams.

 

Thank you,

Delain

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