2D drawing; dimensions to rounded corner

[jkelindberg]

I have a piece of metal sheet, corners are rounded (to avoid causing injuries).

• How do I make the magenta colored dimension, from the edge to the corner where the lines would meet (dashed lines)?
• How do I make the detail view (green circle)?
• How do I make the dashed lines (most visible in the green detail view)?

 

[TrippyLighting]

Thanks for the interesting details! It's great to see that Autodesk approaches Fusion 360 this way. 

You are correct that I make lighting systems. I am glad you like them!

It's not a business yet but thats's one of my goals for this year. I've given myself the goal of 5 years to turn this into a sustainable full time occupation.

For me the work on these lights entails what I went to become an engineer for. Invent and innovate!

These lamps and for the most part engineering unfortunately are not part of my current day-to-day job at a manufacturing site of a German luxury vehicle manufacturer. It pays the bills 😉

[jkelindberg]

Hi.

The top priority on my wishlist would be simple sketching tools (simply lines/polygons and arcs/circles) with ability to change line styles etc. If you need a weld symbol, surface roughness symbol, datum boxes/geometrical tolerances or whatever and the tool does not exist then at least you can make it by hand. You can also sketch your own center lines/points. Should be possible to make dimensions to these lines, and they should be able to snap to points like arc centers, line end points and mid points. This is urgently needed in order to make the 2D drawings module even remotely useable. After that tools to produce all these symbols a drawing needs should be added, and then section views, detail views and cut-outs.

As for the employment question, I work at Bombardier as a mechanical engineer designing electrical traction motors and drive systems (couplings, gearboxes) for trains and metros. For 3D modelling and 2D drawings we use CATIA. I'm using F360 in my "business on the side", Lindberg & Lindberg Engineering AB where we primarily do mechatronics work. You are also welcome to check out and add a connection on my LinkedIn page.

I would also like to pitch in for the importance of 2D drawings. They are the defining specification for a component, and we cannot even get a price estimate from a supplier without a drawing. The reason being that price is very much tied to parameters not visible on a 3D-model. For example tolerances on dimensions and geometry, surface roughness, material specifications, if the component should have surface treatment/painting, paint masking, and a plethora of other things are cost drivers.

It is also a very important document when things don't turn out the way you intended from both sides. I can make a claim if the component does not conform to the drawing and conversely the supplier will demand a variation order (with a price tag attached) if for the (unlikely 😉 event that the drawing is wrong.

But I guess it depends on how you define the software's target user. As it is now it seems to be directed almost exclusively to people with a cheap 3D-printer in the garage for whom a drawing might not be essential. But for those of us who send out work to be carried out by suppliers and external workshops, we need it.

[Anonymous]

We have a saying in our progoram... for every zero add a zero. If a 1.00" hole costs $1 to drill, a 1.000" hole will cost $10 to drill. 🙂

[prabakarm]

Thanks for the feedback Johan.  The team is reevaluating the current priorities to see how to incorporate all the feedback from you, luke, trippylighting and others.  We will get back in a short order.

In the meantime I was wondering if we offer you guys AutoCAD free of charge to finish the drawings would that be an acceptable.  Given that Fusion drawings is based on AutoCAD you can layout your views in Fusion, save a DWG and finish it in AutoCAD.  Most of the needs in this thread are around annotations which can done in AutoCAD.  The caveat will be the annotations done in AutoCAD standalone will not be associative to the model.  Let us know your thoughts.

Johan, the software's target user is not just people using additive techniques for production but subtractive as well leveraging in-house as well as the supply chain.  That is why we added CAM and used AutoCAD engine for 2D drawings.  That said we are also trying to understand how the evolution as well as changes in manufacturing techniques in the industry is impacting users like yourself.

Prabakar.

[Anonymous]

That goes above the call of duty and I would gladly accept.

This would allow me to give up all of my other software for the time being, with the hopes that Fusion drawings are completed in the future. If this happens, I'm looking at Fusion as being my only software for design, in-house manufacturing, archival drawing, and outsourced drawing communication. That is why I got in on Ultimate, because I saw this as being a formidable force in the CAD/CAM/CAE marketplace in the near future and a possible only option. I have no need for PLM or other features that large organizations require.

If Fusion can get through its growing pains and line up with some key features like Drawings I see a profitable future for Autodesk and everyone using Fusion.

[jkelindberg]

Thanks Prabakar, I have some drawings that urgently need to be made so it would be very helpful.

[TrippyLighting]

Thanks, that is a very generous offer, but I don't need it at this time. My parts are machined already and I have enough for 10 lighting systems. That'll last a while 😉

[TimeraAutodesk]

@jkelindberg  & @Anonymous , please shoot me an email and I'll get you taken care of concerning an AutoCAD license.

Thanks,

Timera

timera.hart@autodesk.com

[MitchPolly]

I know it's almost two years later but does this offer still stand? I was tring to dimension a part in Fusion and ran into this issue (trying to place a dimension on a theoretical sharp). I found this thread while searching for a solution.

Thank you

[TimeraAutodesk]

Hey @MitchPolly, thanks for posting and reaching out. We aren't currently offering this anymore, but the development team is actively working on a feature that will allow you to dimension to apparent intersections in Fusion 360 Drawings. Might I recommend downloading a free 30-day trial of AutoCAD or AutoCAD LT to get you over the hump until this is available in Fusion? 

[Anonymous]

Is there any update on this topic?

I am currently sitting on Drawings I can't really finish, since the store where I want my parts to be done wants me to dimension the corners as shown in the first post,

but I havent found any solution to this yet.

Is there any workaround on this maybe?

Sincerely

[TimeraAutodesk]

Hey @Anonymous, thanks for following back up with us on this. This feature isn't complete yet, but there is good news.

In the upcoming March 1st update, we'll will be releasing incremental progress that will allow you to at least acquire the point to dimension to. You won't get the proper edge extension decoration (yet), but the end result is accurate. Here's a demo video of it in action: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4awwfawqehtw8te/Ord%20Dim%20Apparent%20Intersection.mp4?dl=0

I hope this is helpful and that you'll be able to get back up and running creating drawings in fusion with this. 

keep in touch,

Timera

[Anonymous]

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@TimeraAutodesk wrote:

In the upcoming March 1st update, we'll will be releasing incremental progress that will allow you to at least acquire the point to dimension to. You won't get the proper edge extension decoration (yet), but the end result is accurate. Here's a demo video of it in action: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4awwfawqehtw8te/Ord%20Dim%20Apparent%20Intersection.mp4?dl=0

I hope this is helpful and that you'll be able to get back up and running creating drawings in fusion with this. 

keep in touch,

Timera

Pardon my Ignorance,  but that video only shows a Square 90° corner on-axis fillet which already was get-around-able.

This whole thread is about odd angle intersections that are non-dimensional-able do to the presence of a fillet

See Screencast for visual description of the problem (Fusion 360 downloaded May 1st 17)

Edit:  The screencast didn't insert

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/community/screencast/8448e5ad-45cf-4a29-96cd-44c9842f7caf

[TimeraAutodesk]

@Anonymous - thanks for your feedback, this workflow also works for non-90 degree angles, and in the May update of Fusion 360, we will be introducing a proper Edge Extension tool to the Drawings workspace that will apply the correct annotation and let you dimension to the apparent intersection.

Here's a couple examples of the end result:

And as always, you can stay up to date with what we're working on by visiting the Drawings Roadmap Mural here too: http://mur.al/bW6QNqDW 

Thanks,

Timera

[Anonymous]

This post is from 2015. They said they were improving the drawing section of Fusion 360. 2019, and here I am with the same problem. Can't add a simple measure from top to bottom because the top is rounded.

[HughesTooling · Accepted solution]

Use the dimension tool, select the bottom line then right click and select the Quadrant or Midpoint snap.

Mark