Tool length not on setup sheet

[LEEMCLAIN2521]

The tool length has disappeared from the setup sheet when I print it out, This morning it worked this afternoon after the update it is not working

[innovatenate]

I'm not quite sure what is going on here, thank you for reporting this. Are you using the Setup Sheet command or are you using the html or the excel Setup Sheet (CPS) in the post processor to generate the setup sheet?

[paul.clauss]

Hi @LEEMCLAIN2521

Thanks for posting! I found that the tool length should be shown if you create a setup sheet using the "setup-sheet.cps - Setup Sheet" post in the generic post library and enable the "showTools" flag in the post properties (within the Post Process dialogue box). Please let me know if you have any issues with this method.

As the setup sheet button in Fusion used to include tool lengths, I have logged an issue with our post processor team (CAMP-422) to improve this behavior in the future. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Please let me know if you have any questions - I am happy to help!

[LEEMCLAIN2521]

I believe it is a problem with the setup-sheet.cps - Setup Sheet file, I think that it must be missing some lines of code that makes it read and print the tool length. The other types posted from the post processor all have the tool length in them. This setup sheet looks exactly like the one that you get if you press the setup sheet button in the browser which is my preferred method of posting these for printing in my work flow, which opens in HTML. I can work around it for now, but it worked Friday morning and then Friday afternoon after the update it quit.

[paul.clauss]

Hi @LEEMCLAIN2521

Thanks for the response! I have not had any issues with the setup-sheet.cps post omitting tool lengths as long as the "showTools" post property is enabled, as shown below. The screenshot below is from the Mac version of Fusion - the Post Process dialogue box does look different on Mac and Windows OS. 

Let me know if you are not seeing the tools on the setup sheet when the showTools post property is enabled when using the post process method to create setup sheets and we will continue looking into this behavior. I believe the problem with the Setup Sheet button is that it is not enabling this property - the button invokes the "setup-sheet.cps" post but does not give any options to enable post properties. Our post development team will be looking into this in CAMP-422, and I believe an improvement to the Setup Sheet button could be to create a dialogue that gives options on what will be included in the setup sheet. I am glad to hear that you have been able to work around this issue for now - we appreciate you bringing it to our attention!

Please let me know if you have any questions - I am happy to assist!

[patrik-web]

I also noticed this regression when using the "setup sheet" button. It appears the culprit is this part in setup-sheet.cps:

    if (!tool.isTurningTool()) {
      //c3 += makeRow(makeColumn(d(localize("Length") + ": ") + v(spatialFormat.format(tool.grooveWidth) + getUnitSymbolAsString())));
    } else {
      c3 += makeRow(makeColumn(d(localize("Length") + ": ") + v(spatialFormat.format(tool.bodyLength) + getUnitSymbolAsString())));
      c3 += makeRow(makeColumn(d(localize("Flutes") + ": ") + v(tool.numberOfFlutes)));
    }

Unless the tool is a turning tool, the length and flutes fields are not added. If I just remove that if block and unconditionally add the Length and Flutes fields, I recover the old setup sheet.

The commented out line that would add "length" from "tool.grooveWidth" for anything except turning tools looks like a bug to me.

[paul.clauss]

Thanks @patrik-web! 

I wanted to circle back here to let everyone know that the post team has released a fix to the setup sheet post to resolve this behavior - you can download it at this link! You can then install the post to your personal library using this procedure or your cloud post library using this procedure. When installing the Setup Sheet post, be sure to add both the .CPS and .CSS file to the folder containing the posts. 

The development team will be looking into fixing the setup sheet button in a future update to Fusion - until this is done please use the new post to include tool lengths in your setup sheets.

[patrik-web]

Hi Paul,

Thanks for pointing out the fixed setup sheet. Am I correct in understanding that the "setup sheet" button always looks at setup-sheet.cps in the "generic posts" folder and it's not possible to direct it to use e.g. the new setup-sheet I downloaded and put in my cloud posts folder? Being able to customize where the setup sheet button gets its file seems like an obvious improvement.

[paul.clauss]

Hi @patrik-web

Thanks for posting! I did a test and noticed that the Setup Sheet button does link to the generic Setup Sheet post processor in Fusion, so replacing the existing setup-sheet.cps and .css files allowed the Setup Sheet button to include tool lengths by default.

Your generic post folder filepath can be viewed in the post process dialogue when working on Windows (as shown below), and in the  /Users/MyName/Library/Application Support/Autodesk/webdeploy/production/version hash/Libraries/Applications/CAM360/Data/Posts folder on Mac. The version hash will be an alphanumeric string - this string can vary from user to user and there are a few folders in the Production folder that are labeled alphanumerically, so you may need to look through each one.

Hopefully this helps! Please let me know if you have any questions.

[LEEMCLAIN2521]

Thanks for the information, the only difference that I found was that my
location on my work station was a little different

C:\Users\mark_new\AppData\Local\Autodesk\webdeploy\production\f3c9c3ecddacc5
44b9f9ea3d0e87e0190d5b2000\Applications\CAM360\Data\Posts

But by enabling the search of the application data folder it found where it
was at. Thanks everyone for your help. Tool length during setup of the
machine is extremely necessary with the type of cutting that I do that if I
set it wrong I will have a crash.

Thanks, Lee McLain

[cj.abraham]

The most recent setup sheet post has "showTools" enabled by default, and holder information was added to the tool table as well.

To use the most recent setup sheet, download it from here: http://cam.autodesk.com/posts/?p=setup-sheet

[LEEMCLAIN2521]

One of the guys sent me a couple files that I replaced in my folder which corrected the problem for now, I normally use the setup sheet command button as going through the navigation of the post  processor twice (once to create the sheet and once to post out the file) is more time consuming than selecting the setup sheet button. There is one thing that I like better about the files they gave me. The tools are listed first on the sheet before the operations, this is very nice for setup as I very often use multiple WCS setups and might be cutting several completely different items that use different tools, so now I don't have to sort through the pages to make sure that I get all of the tools into the magazine.

[JonSchaeffer]

My set up sheets are looking like this...

[paul.clauss]

Hi @JonSchaeffer

Thanks for posting! I was unable to recreate the odd tool images in your screenshot - would you mind clarifying a few aspects of your workflow?

• Are you using the Setup Sheet button or a Setup Sheet Post Processor? In either case, have you installed the most recent update to the Setup Sheet post (either in your cloud or personal libraries if using the Post Process method to create setup sheets, or in your locally stored generic posts as described in my previous post (for use with the Setup Sheet button))?
• If you are Post Processing to create the setup sheet, would you mind sharing a screenshot of how your post properties (in the Post Process dialogue) are set up?
• If you are Post Processing, have you made any edits or added any customizations to the Setup Sheet post?
• Does this type of image occur when posting from any Fusion design, or only certain ones? Or does it seem to be specific to certain tools? If it only occurs in certain designs or with certain tools, would you mind sharing one with me? Any tools will be saved with the CAM information when you share the file so long as it is a native Fusion format (.f3d or .f3z).

Hopefully this helps us get started! I look forward to hearing from you.

[JonSchaeffer]

This happened on Wed evening while in my shop programming on my iMac.

I went into my day job the next morning and l found the same error happening there. Only on a PC

The strange thing is when I came back to my shop the set up sheets were back to normal in "My shop"

Maybe I got stuck in the Matrix for a bit while some bug fixes were happening.

I will look first thing Monday morning if the issue has fixed itself, and report it here.

To answer your questions the best I can.

This is the button I clicked.

I have just now down loaded the latest setup sheet version. But I have no idea where to put it on a Mac. 

I could use a little help there.

Question on the new set up sheet. Does it have the "Body Length" on it like the old one?

This is crucial to the reason I use the "set up sheets"

I am also not understanding what you mean if I am using the post processing to create my set up sheet.

I only know one way. "Click the button" that says set up sheets.

How do I try this other method out? 

[JonSchaeffer]

How do you do this on a Mac?

[paul.clauss]

Hi @JonSchaeffer

Thanks for the response! I'm glad that the tool picture issue seemed to resolve itself - let me know if you see any more strange behavior. The new setup sheet does include the body length (labeled as just "Length" on the sheets). 

The Setup Sheet button you are using calls a javascript post processor to create the setup sheet - you can also access the post through your generic post processors in the Post Process dialogue. I have shown this in the screencast below. The button calls the setup sheet posts (setup-sheet.cps and setup-sheet.css stored in your generic post processors) - this is why downloading the new setup sheet post and adding it to your generic posts (see my post #9 on this thread) will work to fix the button. 

On my Mac, the generic post was found at the;

/Users/MyName/Library/Application Support/Autodesk/webdeploy/production/version hash/Libraries/Applications/CAM360/Data/Posts

folder. I have also shown how to access this folder in the screencast below. You may need to look through the different alpahnumberic IDs in the production folder, as they will be unique to your login information.

Hopefully this helps - let me know if there are any questions! My apologies for being so loud in the screencast - didn't have the mic but the MacBook sure picks it up!

[JonSchaeffer]

Wow Thanks Paul...

It took me a few times but I did get the SET UP SHEET installed on my Mac.

THANK YOU so much for your help.

I am super excited that this has been updated.

I get images for my tool holders and tools extensions on the Mac now.

And what I did not know was they also changed it to give a numerical list with images of the tool list.

And they also include the tools operations with tool images.

But I am torn with this though. 

I have a few more questions...

Are we able to control if we want just the tool list?

Or if we want just the tool list by Operations? Like it used to be?

Also can I edit this by removing unwanted information being put on the set up sheet?

And vise versa. Can I add info that currently is not being generated?

And can I arrange the order of the info?

[paul.clauss]

Hi @JonSchaeffer

Thanks for the response - I'm glad things are working correctly for you now!

Our post development team is considering a future enhancement to the Setup Sheet tool in Fusion that would make editing and ordering the information much easier - I am excited for this update to be released sometime in the future, but cannot currently give an expected timeframe. While we wait for this improvement, you can edit the information contained in the sheets by editing the Setup Sheet post processor (the .CPS and .CSS files). While I am relatively new to editing the Javascript posts, there are some great resources that should be able to help you get started in the HSM Post Processor forum.

Hopefully this helps! Let me know if you have any questions!