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Group in sketch

Group in sketch

group function helps a lot with moving sketches and drawings where you might not need constraints as much

 

there is more to sketches then the workflow only constraint sketches allow you to use

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colin.smith
Alumni
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colin.smith
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brianrepp
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TrippyLighting
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This wouod be very helpful for example with imported SVGs or generally with a logo or lettering of sorts. One could group the individual letters each into their own group and them move the letters insted of having to deal with individual line and curve entities.

This would be like entry level vector grapics:

cekuhnen
Mentor
Yep basic functions everybothet app has ...
Anonymous
Not applicable

I can see this for things such as logos or imported entities which might have a 'fixed group' that can be moved around, which doesn't rely on normal sketch constraints.

 

In design though I have never encountered a situation where having an unconstrained sketch is ever a good practice.

cekuhnen
Mentor

Not really - the problem with the sketch engine is that it forces you to work only the way the sketch solver allows you to and that sometimes is a bottle neck and time sucker because it makes work extra complicated.

 

I use group functions among scale move rotate a lot in every CAD app where I create a profile layout to skin a surface.

tima123d
Advocate

In SolidWorks, you can create a "Block" that is a fixed selection of sketch elements that you can just rubberstamp around as you please, drag to new places without worrying about accidentally selecting individual elements, etc. It also allows you to edit the block instance and all other blocks update. You can save blocks independently of the design. And, of course, you can "Explode" the block to once again edit individual parts. It's very handy, 

In Adobe Illustrator, you can group items, and you can lock or hide individual groups. Clicking on anything in the group selects everything in the group, but you can still select individual items from the Layers tree view. You can grab the outer edges of the group bounding box to squash and stretch, and you can rotate by dragging the corner. You can't set the origin point for the group as far as I know, and squashing the group causes circles to deform .

 

Both of these allow you to nest elements, so you can have blocks within blocks, or groups within groups.

 

Ideally, some combination of these behaviors would be nice. Perhaps something like blocks, but with Illustrator's handles but instead of squash and stretch, they respect relations and aspect ratios of things like circles. Having access to all of the individual lines and points in the Tree View would be tremendously handy.

 

Not having any grouping of sketch elements at all makes the program kind of unusable except for very simple things.

cekuhnen
Mentor

@tima123d Block Funktion is a different beast and maybe should be an idea on its own. Will you create one?

tima123d
Advocate
promm
Alumni
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Claas,

 

Thank you for your idea.  I was going to change this to future consideration, however I would consider blocks as a solution to the workflow issue you are describing and you stated that block functionality should be a different idea.  For this reason I am changing this idea to archived.

 

Regards,

 

Mike Prom

peterschlem
Contributor

Absolutely necessary, have been requesting this feature for years, will save a tremendous amount of time in manipulating geometric entities, have been requesting this feature for years.

dstevenslv
Advocate

The idea that a basic drawing function like grouping elements of a sketch has to be voted to be considered is emblematic of the state of basic drawing tools in F360.  This is a basic drawing feature that should have been included in the first revision.

 

Dave

Anonymous
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FYI I have started a new discussion on this topic please see and vote for http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/ideastation-request-a-feature-or/block-in-a-sketch/idi-p/6841162

dave3PGN8
Enthusiast

I think this is a glaring omission. Please add grouping of sketch elements.

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