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Fusion personal and private server

Fusion personal and private server

Hi,

 

I know that this subject has been discussed before but I think it's very important to put it on the table again.

 

I'm very impressed by how Fusion takes CAD to the next level and I've been putting it in the hands of different heavy CAD users working for bigger enterprises than me, and they all loved it and only stayed with one question, "How data is managed?", I'm glad you freakin' ask... It's on amazon's servers, and if you think it's not a problem, it's probably not a problem for you, because hey, these servers are very secured, right?

 

Well... yet again, the server is down, we can't upload anything and some data isn't cached into our own machines, and when you have 8 people working with you on a project, these situations are just unacceptable both in therms of security and availability. 

 

So what if enterprises could have a "server" version of Fusion 360 to store all data and services locally? Well, I think it will be the "killer" feature, at such a point that I don't know if Inventor could still be taken as an "upgrade" from fusion, but for the persons who actually use Fusion as their main software, it's not an option anymore.

 

I know it's difficult to do, but it NEEDS to be considered further, however Fusion is only going to target small enterprises with no intellectual proprieties. I'm repeating myself I know, and please discuss it below in the comments if you think the opposite, but for me right now, I'm blocked between Fusion for free but with the fear of my data being unavailable or stolen and Solidworks or Inventor which cost an arm for a multiple people team working on prototypes with no assurance that the software will ever be profitable.

 

Thanks for your attention, Hugues.

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I know this is probably never going to happen, but there is literally no technical reason why the program shouldn't be able to function more or less completely in stand alone mode.

 

Cloud storage and compute are great ways to enhance things, but there is no non-BS justification for why conservatively 99.9% of what I (or likely most people) do with the application can't be done locally.

 

The feeling I get is perpetually that there was a commandment «F360 shalt be a cloud application» without considering why.

 

The cloud makes sense for collaboration and backup and heavy-lifting compute and storage, and it's great to have it there for those, but what purpose does it serve to depend on it to do some light modelling ?

wyarberryXKUE5
Participant

I feel the same. I am trying to get Fusion implemented as the main CAD software at the company I work for. We currently use Inventor and the owner wants cut  expenses.However just yesterday we experienced some problems with connections, ( untangling some wires ) it said. While I believe the team at fusion does their best to keep things up and running , they cannot  control what will happen locally or regionally in different areas of the country or in different areas of the globe. So I must agree with the others on this matter, that a local server version would far better serve companies using the software as the main CAD package 

kb9ydn
Advisor

The current cloud model forces everyone to use the same version of software, which makes support much easier.  This is not a justification for why they couldn't allow private clouds, running whatever version people want, but just one possible reason for why they decided to go with a single cloud model.

 

 

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@aroambotics_scott wrote:

 

The feeling I get is perpetually that there was a commandment «F360 shalt be a cloud application» without considering why.


I feel exactly the same way, but while Fusion has a lot of good points, the concept of "everything in the cloud and nothing else" is just... boring and counter productive. So much people already talked about a mixture of cloud/local that I feel like Autodesk doesn't want any of this. ( or maybe they are working on it, letting people think that Fusion will still be like it is right now, a cloudy soft )

 


@kb9ydn wrote:

 

 

The current cloud model forces everyone to use the same version of software, which makes support much easier.  This is not a justification for why they couldn't allow private clouds, running whatever version people want, but just one possible reason for why they decided to go with a single cloud model.


That's not a problem if the cloud version is a separate software that updates every boot up like Fusion does. Yes it's another software and that cost money, but money well spent, no need to buy the cloud storage because it will be the enterprises's problem, plus it's great for intellectual propriety.

kb9ydn
Advisor

@apachehugh.vandecasteele

That's not a problem if the cloud version is a separate software that updates every boot up like Fusion does. Yes it's another software and that cost money, but money well spent, no need to buy the cloud storage because it will be the enterprises's problem, plus it's great for intellectual propriety.

 

They already have that product; it's called Inventor.

 

 

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@kb9ydn

But Inventor is too pricy for a startup, plus it doesn't have all the form tools and the simplicity that comes with Fusion. Inventor, tell me if I'm wrong, but I feel like it's for small industries, it's not as modern and young as Fusion.

Anonymous
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@apachehugh.vandecasteele

Ahh so you wanna try to host a 'Fusion 360 Server' by your own? I dont think you will get more uptime and safety of your data than currently on the AWS Servers. Please also think of the maintenance a server needs, would you really spent so much effort to host everything by your own without an increasement of the security? No!!! Why do you think that your server is more secure than multible AWS Servers? I dont think so!!!

 

If you do a startup you can be happy that you know your data is secured and 99,95% reachable through AWS servers. You dont have to spend time in setting everything up and concentrate on the important things of your startup!!

 

Fusion is also working in offline mode with all your files. You can add a file to the offline cache and also specify how long this cache will be held (standard setting is 60 days.)

 

I'm blocked between Fusion for free but with the fear of my data being unavailable or stolen

I am using Fusion 360 for around two years now and i remember only one time where the servers were down for half a day or soo.

If there is a hacker or somebody who wants to steal your data he will steal your data, this doesn't depend on where the data is stored! Why do you think it is more secure if you host the server by your own, this makes no sense? Your local server can be maximum the same secure than the AWS Servers.

 

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