dynamic origin for cam wcs

[j.cavender]

fusion need to have the ability to dynamically move the wcs offset 

[Laurens-3DTechDraw]

Do you want to move it for 5-sided machining? That does work perfectly. Or do you want to change the workoffset number?

[j.cavender]

i want to be able to grab it and drag it around to the spot i want it without having to creat additional geometry.

[Laurens-3DTechDraw]

During the setup creation? Of in the operations? And what is you problem exactly now? Can you post a video or screenshot of the problem?

[j.cavender]

I wanted to put it on the top corner because it would have been easier to pick that corner up than the bottom. i am transitioning from mastercam in mastercam i could grab the origin different ways and make it do different things it was interactive and intuitive 

[HughesTooling]

Have you looked at all the options in the setup. You can also draw a point anywhere in the model workspace and use that.

[j.cavender]

I dont want to have to draw extra geometry just trying to suggest better workflow options not looking for a workaround i can figure out work arounds all day long but that interupts workflow

[HughesTooling]

In your example did you try Selected Point and pick the corner of the part, it will pick the vertex there.

[j.cavender]

yes but the corner is of the stock before the angle is cut so without doing extra modeling the point is imaginary 

[Laurens-3DTechDraw]

@j.cavender

So you want the origin on a point that is not actually in the model and you want to be able to drag and drop it there and have it snap onto this imaginary point?? Well that's not going to happen. I mean how can you know where you placed your origin in such a case. So snapping to something somewhere in the space for no reason is not on the list of possibilities.

What is going to happen is select the model box point option like @HughesTooling suggested. See this video: http://autode.sk/1UhzTPf

[j.cavender]

mastercam does this so it is definetly in the list of possibilities and model box point will not work in this instance because the part is setup at a 15 deg angle so i would like to be abl to grab the axis gnomin and start to move it then put in an offset value or be able to snap it to certain points also the point isnt imaginary it would be the intersection of the front face and top face before the big 15 deg chamfer is put on it

[HughesTooling]

I've used a couple of CAM programs that allow you to set a custom origin in the setup, either entering ABS or relative coordinates, the trouble is it wasn't that easy to accurately set and an even bigger pain if you needed to modify the part.

Although you see going to the model workspace and setting up a plane and a point that are fully parametric as a workaround it's probably quicker and more user friendly than what I've seen in other programs.

I've voted on this and hope the Fusion team can come up with something that's better than the workaround.

Mark

[Laurens-3DTechDraw]

@j.cavender

"also the point isnt imaginary it would be the intersection of the front face and top face"

That is exactly what the model box point does. It gives you points that are on the rectangular box around the model. If you look ate the video I posted you can see that you can set the 15 degrees of rotation afterwards with changing the Z orientation.

I'm not saying there shouldn't be other options to set the WCS. But the case you provided here is one Fusion does really well actually if you understand how it works.

[al.whatmough]

Having the ability to adjust the angle could be helpfull in the setup.

That said, some of these dirrect maniuplation things with other systems are a result of tools that are not associate.

With an assoicative system, everything needs to be built in a way to that allows for parametric updates when model changes happen.

[Anonymous]

This would be a huge time saver for me. I came over from BobCAD, and I could select a point on the part, then could move it in X,Y,Z if I needed to. This was great for parts that I wanted to hang off the vise to trim up sides, then flip over flush to the vise for machining features on the back.