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Add "Rest Machining" to the 2D ADAPTIVE TOOLPATH

Add "Rest Machining" to the 2D ADAPTIVE TOOLPATH

When machining a pocket. You want to use a larger diameter tool to rough out the area first. Then go back in with a smaller diameter tool to clean out the corners a little bit. If "2D ADAPTIVE" had the "REST MACHINING" capability this would be simple. The workflow would be as follows:

1.) create initial 2d adaptive toolpath with larger diameter tool.

2.) right-click and "duplicate" toolpath.

3.) change tools and turn on "REST MACHINING"!!!

 

DONE.

 

9 Comments

Just as a question, for Fusion the 3D Operations are always included in the license so why shouldn't you use that?

kb9ydn
Advisor

2D Adaptive is easier to program sometimes because it has fewer settings to manage.  The tool path generation time is also lower with 2D.

 

 

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LMCHuxley
Contributor

The 2d also comes standard. The 3d is not as suitable for a single z depth pocket as the 2d. You can do it however, but with a lot more

effort and wasted time. The workflow would not be as efficient because of this. Time is money.

HughesTooling
Consultant

Odd that it's available in 2d pocket and not in 2d adaptive.

 

I would second what @LMCHuxley says; Time is money and 2D adaptive is real simple when you are just trying to clear out a single area at one Z height. Yes, 3D adaptive works well, just have to fiddle with a few more settings to achieve the desired results

@LibertyMachine @LMCHuxley

I understand where you are coming from but I must say that for me personally, it's just quicker to set-up a 3D Adaptive.(And it should be about the same amount of clicks/settings, set the maximum depth too 100mm for example)

Especially when you start talking about rest machining 2D Operations get harder because you have to remember the size of the previous tool(Which you can change afterwards and cause a crash), remember the stock to leave of the previous operation, remember the minimum cutting radius of the previous operation. If you ask me that is a lot more work than just clicking the rest machining on and be ready to go in the 3D Operation.

kb9ydn
Advisor

@Laurens-3DTechDraw

If you have Fusion then yes, you may as well use 3D adaptive since it's not really that much extra work.  But to me the REAL reason to put rest machining in 2D adaptive (aside from just being useful) is because 2D pocket already has it, and 2D pocket is about the dumbest strategy that HSM has.  It's just weird that a more advanced tool path is missing an option that a less advanced tool path has.  And if you're using either of the express CAM versions you don't have access to 3D adaptive (of course this doesn't apply to Fusion but it's the same CAM).

 

 

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al.whatmough
Alumni
Status changed to: RUG-jp審査通過

I need to archive this one.  This has to do with How Adaptive works, it is always aware of the in-process stock.  So, this simplified rest machining we have for the other 2D operations by using the tool diameter will not work.

 

If you want rest machining for adaptive, you will need to you 3D adaptive. If you want to simplify things then make the setup down and fine stepdown equal.

ProExtra
Enthusiast

I agree!

We need a 'rest' machining for 2D adaptive. The whole premise of an adaptive tool path is to make tool cutting pressures stable which allow the use of small tools and long stick outs. The number ONE time when you need a rest feature is with small diameter tools, yet it's not available.

 

Sure, it might be possible to program this through 3D adaptive, but it's a very ham fisted and I've really struggled to get a useable toolpath, especially on complicated shapes.

 

The work flow would be amazingly smooth and intuitive to have this. Nearly all other CAM software does.

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