Built-in supply symbols are generating incorrect net names.

Built-in supply symbols are generating incorrect net names.

rbeyerCLBSZ
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Built-in supply symbols are generating incorrect net names.

rbeyerCLBSZ
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The "Power_Symbols" library generates incorrect names for nets. 

 

For example, put the +3.3V symbol on a page and draw a net with a label, you get:

BadNetName.JPG

 

You can see that this should be +3V3 (and not 3.3V or +3.3V). If you draw using the +1.8V symbol you get the same net name!

 

BadNetName2.JPG

 

This can lead to disasterous results! Imagine putting nets all over the place and assume that they are named correctly only to find out that your 3.3V rail is being pushed into your 1.8V rail! This will fry chips like DDR memory or MPU's!

 

The "supply1" and "supply2" don't have this problem from the old Eagle libraries. Can somebody fix this before we burn out boards? The bad part is, because the net names are the same, when you connect something up it will not warn you about connecting 3.3V and 1.8V together! 

 

 

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HelenChen-AutodeskQA
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Hi @rbeyerCLBSZ ,

 

Thank you so much for reporting this issue to us. So sorry for any inconvenience. I will report this back to our team.

 

Currently, you could continue to use the supply1 and supply2 library in Fusion 360 by adding them from Library Manager -> Available list. It works in Fusion 360 about the correct net classes.

 

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Or you could edit the net class name when placing the label for the net for Power_Symbols parts as the workaround currently.

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We will keep you be posted. Thank you.

 

Regards,

Helen

 



Helen Chen
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rbeyerCLBSZ
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I've done that, however the problem with renaming the net is that if you copy/paste the symbol as you would all-over the schematic, it reverts back to the "V+" net name. So the problem is that if you have a bunch of nets on a sheet named "+3V3" and copy/paste the "+3V3" symbol and connect it to the net, it will rename **all** the nets on that segment to "V+", which you then have to go through and rename/verify. 

 

It's incredibly annoying to have a sheet full of properly named +3V3 nets then add one "+3V3" symbol and it renames all your nets to "+V" (if you pick the wrong option in the dialog) (which may clash with something else you didn't catch). To illustrate the point, here is a real example of a problem:

 

BadNets.JPG

 

When I did this I picked the symbol from the "Add Part" dialog from the Power_Supply libraries and connected them all up. Little did I know that these were all "+V" nets, not 1V8 or 3V3, or 1V15, they were all the same. Because these are direct pin connections (caps are elsewhere on the sheet) it didn't warn me at all, it happily connected them up. 

 

It wasn't until I saw this that I realized that my power supply was all shorted out:

 

BadSupply.JPG

 

And because of the saving problem (which has now hopefully been fixed, but is honestly still a mess because you can version individual parts of a schematic different from the overall file by saving in the wrong place), I never knew if I had fixed what I had or if it magically reverted back to an older version.

 

So right now the only work-around is to use the old libraries, the new one is unusable because when you connect the two together (+V and 3V3) it just confirms you want to connect them, then it changes the name to +V which you have to go back in and change again. 

 

By the way this is a problem with all the new libraries, not just Power_Supply. Dropping a capacitor from the Capacitor library should not give a U$1 name, it should be C1, and attempting to give it a value says that there is "no user definable value", which is completely incorrect for components like caps and resistors. 

 

BadCap.JPG

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edwin.robledo
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Hi rbeyerCLBSZ,

We appreciate your participation on the Fusion 360 Electronics forum. We are very sorry for the inconvenience you are experiencing with these libraries. The Power_Symbol library has an error and we will be correcting it very soon. Some of the devices are using a symbol pin that has the Direction supply and the name +V. Renaming the net is possible, but you will need to select the option "this segment".

renaming_net.png

Regarding the prompt for "User Definable Value", it means that the device option is set to off. By editing the device and changing this option to ON will no longer prompt you. This has been reported and it's in the process of being updated.  

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Best Regards,

Ed

 



Edwin Robledo
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HelenChen-AutodeskQA
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Hi @rbeyerCLBSZ ,

 

Hope all is well.

We have updated the Power_Symbols library, please update it to the latest version 9. Hope it helps.

 

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So sorry for any inconvenience.

 

Regards,

Helen



Helen Chen
Principle QA for Fusion 360 Electronics
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