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Is there a template that I can download somewhere or do I have to do a bunch of manual things? My professors use classic mode. There is no option to put it in classic mode on the bottom right settings bar. All the online tutorials show an option, but mine doesn't.
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@Anonymous
AutoCAD no longer have the Classic workspace out of the box. Typically, you will see users who migrate their settings from a previous version to 2017 who still have the Classic workspace. <-- I do not recommend migrating settings from previous versions.
To get the classic look and feel, perform the following:
- Turn on the menu bar by typing MENUBAR and set the value to 1
- From the Tools dropdown, choose Toolbars > AutoCAD, then select the toolbars you want...
- Disable the Ribbon, by typing RIBBONCLOSE.
- Once everything is displayed and organized the way you want, go to the Workspace flyout and choose Save Current As... Then give is a name...
Hope that helps.
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Hi,
>> My professors use classic mode.
Please ask your professor why he is teaching a user-interface, which is not used currently by default (except very few people coming from old releases).
With AutoCAD 2009 the new interface (ribbons) was introduced, at that time a bit buggy, yes, but this change is now 8 years, 8 releases old. Why teaching something that is 8 years old.
I know from my own experience, there are professors (mostly with higher age) who are not staying up-to-date, but they should know: they are more blocking students than preparing them for the future and their jobs.
These professors have to do the same as students, learning! Learning what are the current and the future options, not "how did we work centuries ago" ![]()
Just my 2c, - alfred -
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It appears that new commands in 2017 are not being added to the toolbars and users will need to add them using CUI. PDF Import (not PDF Underlyay) isn't in the Menubar which makes me think Autodesk won't be adding all the new features to the menubar and toolbars.
Nancy
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Hi,
>> It appears that new commands in 2017 are not being added to the toolbars
Yes, that's correct.
Whenever new technology is build and used the time comes that the old technology will not be updated/further developed. It is too expensive to develop and test 2 different systems (in that case gui's) when the new system has the major number of users.
E.g. think about that:
vs. that
I know that some users of the old gui will now come up with their arguments (more screenspace, faster click/command start, ...) but with every new version the ribbon gets more and more powerful and can have functionality you can't have with toolbars.
With AutoCAD we have the advantage to be (currently) in a position to use the old gui, even if we might do a bit of work ... other software vendors changed to ribbons without giving users a chance to change back. Keep that in mind ![]()
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@Anonymous wrote:
My professors use classic mode.
I'd ask for my money back.
Rob
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Thank you Darin.Green.
Setting MENUBAR to 1 fixes a bug that has been bothering me ever since the introduction of the ribbon.
After creating a PDF file using the industry standard Acrobat Pro driver, the close file "X" disappears from the screen. It still works, but it's not visible. Turning on the menubar relocates the "X" to the right hand side of the menubar & it is now unaffected by PDF production.
Thanks again!
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Hi,
>> Setting MENUBAR to 1 fixes a bug
This is not a bug, it's a configuration setting available to every single user.
Just my 2c, - alfred -
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That comment wasn't worth anything like 2c Alfred.
Did you read my whole post, or just the first line?
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Hi @Anonymous,
As much as we older types resort to the way we "used to do it" I suggest that you learn the newer UI instead of reset to the classic-style interface.
However, if you really want to go there try these settings/steps:
MENUBAR = 1
Tools > toolbars > acad > layers
hoover over layers toolbar > right click > properties
hoover over any toolbar > right click > standard
hoover over any toolbar > right click > styles
hoover over any toolbar > right click > workspaces
RIBBONCLOSE
arrange toolbars
workspace, saveas, Classic
I didn't come up with this list but I don't recall who first posted it. I hope this gets your interface to the way you want it.
Please select the Accept as Solution button if my post solves your issue or answers your question.
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Hi @Anonymous,
I am checking back to see if my post or others helped you with your problem. Please add a post with how you decide to proceed and your results so other Community members may benefit.
Please hit the Accept as Solution button if a post or posts solves your issue or answers your question.
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Adobe Acrobat Pro is the driver that enables generating PDF files at large page sizes. We use release 11.0.19 being the current version to generate PDF files from a number of applications.
The AutoCAD bug has been persistent across the last two Windows versions we've used; 64 bit versions of 7 & 10.
We've always used high resolution monitors - 3840x2160 currently, & 2560x1600 for 10 years prior to that.
I don't know whether this has any bearing on the described bug behaviour, but I'm aware that Autodesk has traditionally been very slow in officially supporting high resolution displays.
Anyway, this is all moot now that we've discovered that turning on the menu bar relocates the close file button from the drawing area to the end of the menu bar & the problem goes away.
IMHO placing ANY controls within the drawing area is an annoyance.
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Ha! I LOVE this side discussion about "professors (mostly with higher age)"!
I've managed CAD in large design offices; I've taught AutoCAD (among many other things) in architecture programs at several universities across the U.S.... since 1988! I always railed on my students about staying current with features and not getting stuck in old ways of doing things that are commonplace in established offices...
- ctb files with pen tables? Color=Lineweight? Seriously?? There hasn't been a *pen* plotter in service since like 1994 - Use lineweights! Color to express... COLOR! WYSIWYG! ...and don't get me going on calling a printer a "plotter"...
- Dark background with negative image lines?? That's sooooo 1970's. Resist the darkness and move toward the light Luke! Dark screens in dim rooms are bad for your eyes... like reading by candle light.
- Sheet Set Manager rules! Markup Set Manager! A360!
- blah blah blah...
** BUT! **...
I have tried several times to encourage and force myself to use, and even to like, ribbon menus, and I can't do it. I've made myself work with them for months to get over the "old school" hump, but every time I come to the same conclusion... productivity declines precipitously with ribbon menus. Too many picks to get to where you're going. I use pre-ribbon menus, toolbars, context menus, grips, palettes, tool palettes, DesignCenter, stay away from the keyboard as much as I can, and things go much faster.
I'm the last one to stick to doing it a certain way just because it's the way I've been doing it, but I cannot convince myself that ribbon menus are better.
Peace.
crazy autocad witch since release 8
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@JOHNLLOYD7213 - I'm not sure if it helps you in any way, but I am running AutoCAD 2017 with the full Ribbon interface. When I plot to the Adobe PDF device, and the resulting PDF opens in Acrobat DC (latest version), the x for both the document as well as the application each appear as expected.
Like Autodesk's own business model transition, I do not believe Adobe offers a perpetual license of Acrobat DC, and must be purchased as part of a subscription.
On a personal note. While I still have plenty of clients who use Acrobat for PDF's, a larger percentage of my customers have migrated to Bluebeam in recent years.
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I agree with you 110% I dislike ribbons, to many clicks. and you have scroll down and search just to find what command you want. I still prefer tool bars. Draw a line...one click, extrude command...one click etc.. etc...
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Thanks. I would not ask for you money back. Learn the key board commands it will make you better at you're job and put you above the pack, you have 2 hands use them. Autocad ruined their interface with this stupid ribbon. I am 37yrs old and learned on AutoCAD 10 in High School when there were no Toolbars and no ribbon. I know every command and I don't even need Toolbars up to do anything. Thats how you should use autocad. these buttons made people slow and lazy at their jobs.
I was a CAD Manager for 10 years and watching people click a button to draw a line aggravated me to no end...or to copy, paste..the simplest commands and you have to click a button.
Classic is the way to go, now everyone thinks they know CAD cause they can click a button.
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I can assure you, you don't know *every* command. Why? Because not everything is a command, and AutoCAD is highly customizable. For example, we don't use LINE a lot here. We use tools which automate a lot of drawing tasks. Some of them are on palettes, some of them are at a context menu, and some are on the Ribbon; some of them are third-party, some are in-house developments.
While it's important to learn new things, and important to be efficient, it's also important to be flexible. Because your next job may involve using tools that are only in a Ribbon, or use CTB, or a host of other things, all of which you are *required* to do.
If you are going to fly by the seat of your pants, expect friction burns.
"I don't know" is the beginning of knowledge, not the end.
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Hi,
>> Learn the key board commands it will make you better at you're job
If you start telling CAD newcomers that they need now a new list of words to get known to a CAD system then these people massively fail whenever changing to another vector edit (CAD like) systems (independent of Autodesk products like Fusion360, 3DS-Max or systems from other vendors) as they even don't have a command line or any option to start commands by typing (maybe there exists some shortcuts).
Not any new CAD system (excluding the AutoCAD based products and AutoCAD clones) use command calls by typing.
>> I know every command and I don't even need Toolbars up to do anything
Wow, even saying that needs a lot of self-assurance. If you really know every single command by name in AutoCAD I guess you are the only one in the world.
Speaking about AutoCAD you'll need to learn then > 1400 commands, if anyone needs AutoCAD Civil 3D means again another 800 commands (don't know the exact number).
You might have a great memory for words and it might be easy to learn words, you might be one of those learning foreign languages in very short time, but please recognize ... finding a button (and not knowing how the command is exactly written) is much easier for newcomers than to know the exact command-name. Especially in none English versions the command names are translated and shortened (not logically shortened) and that is much more complex than finding a button.
>> now everyone thinks they know CAD cause they can click a button
I'm more than 30years with AutoCAD, and I know how to teach people so they know how to work with the structure of AutoCAD without knowing every single command name ... they are allowed to pick the command from ribbon and toolbar(s).
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@Anonymous wrote:
I would not ask for you money back.
You would pay good money for someone to teach you an outdated interface?
Rob
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