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I'm not sure what creating our own paper formats has to do with not being able to even get to the page setup manager.  I don't know the answer to that - we use standard sizes.  I guess they got created, but that was versions ago... I don't know if anyone else is having the issue - they haven't said anything.  But I'm in a different office that is networked in - don't ask me how I don't know how it all works:cara_neutral: But I also run slower than the computers in the main office - we're still trying to figure out why there.  This is just another issue I was hoping to resolve.