"We've been storing customer data for years with mechanical designs prior to the last couple where Electronics design data has been added into the mix."
Well, how many incidents there has been where customer data has leaked out during this time?
"I can get you a white paper on the security measures we take to protect customer data in Fusion if you are interested."
Please send the white paper or the link to it here.
"I'm not a lawyer"
Well, could you provide the email address of your lawyer who understands and handles this at Autodesk. Otherwise it is just hand waving. The real problem is that I don't really believe that Autodesk has real assets to cover the damages of a massive data leak. And a centralized cloud storage is a massive risk which affects many many companies and their valuable assets. You are now forcing your customers to store their data outside their control.
Regarding the copy/paste: Eg. the current project I am working on has several PCBs and I keep all of them open at the same time in multiple Eagle instances. Even though Linux Eagle is quite fast opening projects, I expect to see the different PCBs immediately, as I don't want to loose the exact state of each instance either. Like schematics sheet, zoomed region etc.
Your comments vs. users' comments here and the older thread that was just referred, indicate that you and Autodesk don't really grasp how and why your customers are using Eagle. FE doesn't fill the need. You should have first made it at least as good as Eagle regarding workflows people use and only after that mandate to switch to FE.
Just switching off Eagle at 2026-06-07 is not acceptable. As Eagle has not been developed for three years now, I have the following suggestion:
- Offer all current Eagle subscribers a free perpetual license to Eagle.
- From time to time, offer trials to FE so willing customers can try if it fits their needs.
- If customers see FE is better enough, they can switch to FE and start paying subscription.
With this I could see good will and intent.
I would have probably continued to use and subscribe to Eagle for the rest of my professional career, 5 to 10 years. Now I am forced to migrate to KiCad. The plus side is that after that, I am totally free of any commercial SW in my work! Minus side is the forced effort and time needed in the migration.
You can elaborate, but based on this:
"NEITHER AUTODESK NOR ANY OF ITS LICENSORS OR SUPPLIERS WILL HAVE ANY LIABILITY (DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY) FOR ANY INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, INDIRECT, CONSEQUENTIAL, OR PUNITIVE DAMAGES; LOSS OF PROFITS OR REVENUE; BUSINESS INTERRUPTION OR LOSS OF USE; COST OF PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES OR OTHER COVER; FAILURE OF, OR DEFECTS IN, THE OUTPUT; LOSS, CORRUPTION, OR DELETION OF (OR FAILURE TO DELETE) DATA OR YOUR CONTENT; OR DAMAGES RESULTING FROM FORCE MAJEURE. THE AGGREGATE LIABILITY OF AUTODESK AND ITS LICENSORS AND SUPPLIERS WITH RESPECT TO ANY OFFERING OR OUTPUT THEREOF WILL IN NO EVENT EXCEED THE GREATER OF (a) THE AMOUNT PAID OR PAYABLE BY YOU FOR THE OFFERING IN THE ONE-YEAR PERIOD BEFORE THE EVENTS OR CIRCUMSTANCES GIVING RISE TO THE LIABILITY FIRST OCCURRED, OR (b) US$1000. YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT THE DISCLAIMERS AND LIMITATIONS OF LIABILITY IN THESE TERMS CONSTITUTE AN ESSENTIAL ELEMENT OF THE BARGAIN BETWEEN YOU AND AUTODESK, AND THAT AUTODESK WOULD NOT HAVE PROVIDED THE OFFERINGS TO YOU WITHOUT YOUR AGREEMENT TO EACH OF THESE TERMS. THE LIMITATIONS ON LIABILITY IN THESE TERMS WILL APPLY TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW TO ANY DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, HOWEVER CAUSED AND REGARDLESS OF THE THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER BASED ON CONTRACT, TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE AND STRICT LIABILITY), INDEMNIFICATION, RECOURSE, STATUTE, OR OTHERWISE, AND EVEN IF AUTODESK HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF THE LIABILITY OR THE LIABILITY IS OTHERWISE FORESEEABLE, AND REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE LIMITED REMEDIES IN THESE TERMS FAIL OF THEIR ESSENTIAL PURPOSE."
it is hand waving. Autodesk doesn't take any responsibility on the loss of customer data. Of course the following paragraph refers to "YOUR DAMAGES OR LOSSES CAUSED BY AUTODESK’S FRAUD" where Autodesk has liability, but I can't see this cover the normal lack of security which is caused by sloppy workers.