Text Orientation in Block

[kjskoog]

I created a block so the text orientation would stay the same as I rotate the block but the object in the block does not rotate. Attached is the screen shop of the block defination. If I turn off the Annotative part of it then the whole block rotates. How can I get the objects to rotate but not the text?

Kory Skoog

CAD Technician

[Libbya]

A chained point/move is the usual way.  Move contains text.  Point is rotated.  Post the block itself for better assistance.

[kjskoog]

here it is

[Libbya]

Is this what you're after?

[kjskoog]

No. The text rotates with the block. I am looking to have the text retain the same orientation no matter  how I rotate the block. 

Thank you.

Kory Skoog

CAD Technician

[Libbya]

You must be using the rotate command on the block.  Don't do that.  Instead select the block and use the rotate and move grips.

[kjskoog]

Sorry. Still doesn't work. I select the block, Select the grip (only one to choose). Hit enter until I get to Rotate. type in the angle and nothing. Am I doing it wrong?

Kory Skoog

CAD Terchnician

[Libbya]

When you select the block, two grips should appear.  One is a darker blue square in the middle of the 'S1' text.  The other is a light blue circle straight above the 'S1'.  Select the light blue circle grip and drag it to rotate the chair around the text.  Select the darker blue square and drag it to move the chair and text together.  See screencast.

[kjskoog]

I am showing a screen shot. There is only "one" grip and it's in the center as that's where the base point is. I do not see any other grip like you showed on your previous post. Just to let you know I created the block by using the WBLOCK command. That might have something to do with it.

Kory Skoog

AD Technician

[Libbya]

The block was already made in the file I posted.  No need to Wblock anything.  Did you donwload and open the file I posted?  Or did you insert it as a block into another drawing?  If the former, then the best I can recommend is to  try it again.  If the latter, then either explode it once or do the former.  If you are attempting to insert the file I posted, and the block definition already exists in the drawing, the new insertion will take on the old block definition.  

[Charles_Shade]

You could have a Parameter directly over another Paramater which may be causing some issues.

Though unless you added a Basepoint Parameter to the DynBlk this would not be the case.

[Libbya]

The screencast I posted shows both grips clearly.  The screencast is made from the file I posted previously.  I don't know what issue the OP has with it, but all that is required is to download the file, open it, select it and rotate/move using the grips.  

[Charles_Shade]

I wondered whether or not the OP felt the need to modilfy the block you posted.

[kjskoog]

Sorry..I've been on vacation for two weeks so haven't replied. I used the block you sent me and do not get two grips. 

Kory Skoog

CAD Technician

[Libbya]

That doesn't answer my question.  Did you open the file I attached or did you insert the file as a block into another drawing?

[kjskoog]

Got it to work. I opened it and inserted it. Works when you open it but I need to insert it so I tried other options. Basically had to explode it after I inserted it. How did you create it? I need to make about 200 more of these with different objects and text. Thanks.

Kory Skoog

CAD Technician

[Libbya]

If you open the file I posted, select the block, right click and open in block editor you will see the parameters/actions I added to make it work.  On the left side of the ribbon is the open/save pulldown.  Select 'save block as' and within the dialong select save as file.  The file that is created can be inserted and will work without exploding.  

[Charles_Shade]

Example:

You have a Block named A contained in a File named B.

You grab File B from wherever: Palette, INSERT Command, etc... and INSERT it into your Target file

Now you have a Block in your Target File named "B" that has within it Block A. Hence the need to EXPLODE to get to Block A

You need to cut out the middle man. Recreate the entities of the Block within a new File, name the File Block A and then Block Edit (BE) the <Current Drawing> from the edit options.  SAVE changes to <Current Drawing>  when you close the BE and then save file Block A. Now when you INSERT the file Block A you will not have to EXPLODE to use the block.

In your case, if you do indeed need 200 more of these similar blocks, Visibility States and a Block Properties Table may be a better choice; though it could be inwieldy. 

Are there groups or Families of these entitities that you can work with?

[kjskoog]

Basically we are creating a furnishings plan for a hotel. Some of the blocks do not need to be rotated as they are only one piece or it is a round table but some of the furnishings will be used multiple times and orientated at different angles. What I am looking for is to create a block with annotation and have the annotation have a fixed "0" orientation no matter the orientation of the furnishings symbol.

Kory Skoog

CAD Technician

[Libbya]

Do you still feel you need more insight into how to accomplish that?