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Post Processors 101

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al.whatmough
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Post Processors 101

What is a Post Processor?

 

CAM requires post processors to format toolpaths into CNC programs, a.k.a. G-Code. These CNC programs are executed by the CNC control to drive the machine as it removes material from stock to produce a finished part.

 

Let's start by reviewing the basic steps of going from a CAD model to machined a part:

  

CAD.jpg

 

CAM.jpg

 

Simulate.jpg

 

POST.jpg

 

 

 

Numberical Control.jpg

 

 post button.jpg

How do I post a NC Program?

 

Fusion allows you to post a specific Operation or Operations, Post a complete Setup or Post Multiple Setups into one program.  Simply, select the Operation(s), Setup or Setups and Click post.

 

When posting multiple Setups you can even optimize the program to remove un-need tool changes!  Don't worry; it will never break the order of operations for a single setup.  But, before putting a face mill away, it does makes sense to see if that tool is the next one needed for one of the setups doesn't it?  If it is, the machine will retract to home in Z, move the other Setup and perform the facing operation!

 

 

 

 

 

What if the NC program isn't correct?post properties.png

 

Fusion 360 includes a variety of standard library post processors or "posts". If your machine is not listed in the post processor library then you may need to request a special post to be created. If the post for your machine is listed, you may need to have some modifications done to get the exact output you are looking for. Depending on your experience in machining and machine tool knowledge this may or may not be important to you. For others, such as professional CNC programmers - this is essential.

 

BEFORE, you request a post edit start by confirming that you can't make your required changes my modifying the POST parameters.

 

Basic parameters include:

 

AllowHelical moves - If your machine does not support helical moves it may machine an Arc and the plunge in Z.  Setting "Allow Helical moves" to false will convert all helical moves to small linear moves at the specified (Built-in) Tolerance

 

Show Sequence numbers - Specifies is Sequence numbers are output on each line

 

 

Some examples Advanced Parameters are:

 

Use G0 - Specifies if rapids that change in multiple Axis at are allowed.  If this is set to no, these moves will be output as a linear move (G01) at the Specified (Built-in) highFeedrate.  Machines that do not move in a linear fashion between to rapid points will produce what we "Dogleg rapid" that can potentially gouge parts.

 

UseG28 - While G28 should be a SAFE home position, some machines have G28 set at the top of the table.  So, when the machine homes at the begging or end of a program it plunges into part.  Setting UseG28 to false will not send the machine home at the beginning or end of the program.

 

 

 

What do I need to have a Post modified?

 

When having post customizations done, the best thing to do is to create simple part for each machine type in their CAD. This part should utilize all the processes you would normally use. Then post process the program with the closest generic post that is shipped with the system. When this is complete you should edit the NC output in an editor, and markup the output with comments showing what they want to change (don’t delete anything).

 

Here is an example of the best way to indicate the changes you require:

 

#1           HAVE THE COOLANT M8 BE ON THE LINE AFTER THE G43 LINE

#2           AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH TOOL HAVE THE WCS OUTPUT ON THE FIRST POSITIONING LINE

#3           PUT M9 AT END OF EACH TOOL BEFORE RETRACT TO Z HOME ?

#4           REMOVE X0. SO IT DOESN'T HOME IN X, JUST IN Y AT THE END OF THE CODE

#5           RECALL 1RST TOOL AT THE END OF THE FILE

#6           A N20 G28 G91 Z0. AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH TOOL JUST AFTER THE M1

 

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O03091 (AVP 7)

(T1  D=0.25 CR=0. TAPER=90deg - ZMIN=-0.08 - spot drill)

(T2  D=0.257 CR=0. TAPER=118deg - ZMIN=-1.1272 - drill)

(T8  D=0.3125 CR=0. - ZMIN=-0.5 - right hand tap)

N10 G90 G94 G17

N15 G20

N20 G28 G91 Z0.

N25 G90

(Drill1)

N30 T1 M6

N35 T2

N40 S2500 M3

N45 G55

N50 M8

N60 G0 X4.5 Y-0.25

N65 G43 Z0.6 H1

N75 G0 Z0.2 (#1   PUT M8 HERE, JUST AFTER G43 LINE?)

N80 G98 G81 X4.5 Y-0.25 Z-0.08 R0.2 F20.

N85 X6.125

N90 X7.75

N95 G80 (#3       PUT M9 AT END OF EACH TOOL BEFORE RETRACT TO Z HOME ? )

N100 Z0.6

N105 M5

N110 G28 G91 Z0.

N115 G90

(Drill2)

N120 M9

N125 M1

N130 T2 M6

N135 T8

N140 S1000 M3

N145 M8

N155 G0 ( PUT WCS HERE ON EACH TOOL SECTION) X4.5 Y-0.25

N160 G43 Z0.6 H2

N170 G0 Z0.2 (#1    PUT M8 HERE, JUST AFTER G43 LINE?)

N175 G83 X4.5 Y-0.25 Z-1.1272 R0.2 Q0.1 P0 F3.

N180 X6.125

N185 X7.75

N190 G80 (#3     PUT M9 AT END OF EACH TOOL BEFORE RETRACT TO Z HOME ? )

N195 Z0.6

N200 M5

N205 G28 G91 Z0.

N210 G90

(Drill3)

N215 M9

N220 M1

N225 T8 M6

N230 T1

N235 S100 M3

N240 M8

N250 G0 X4.5 Y-0.25

N255 G43 Z0.6 H8

N265 G0 Z0.2

N270 G84 X4.5 Y-0.25 Z-0.5 R0.2 F5.5556

N275 X6.125

N280 X7.75

N285 G80

N290 Z0.6

N295 M9

N300 G28 G91 Z0.

N305 G28 X0. Y0. (#4       REMOVE X0. SO IT DOESN'T HOME IN X, JUST IN Y)

(#5         RECALL 1RST TOOL AT THE END OF THE FILE)

N310 M30

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To obtain more information or request a post or post modifications please visit: http://camforum.autodesk.com/index.php?board=3.0.

 

Because all Autodesk CAM tools utilize the same post processor system and CAM kernel we have a dedicated forum to discuss all things CAM.

 

I hope this was a help.  

 

Feel free to add comments if you feel I missed something!

 

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AL Whatmough
Director Product Management - Manufacturing

Note, I love to engage on the forums. However, I spend a lot of time in meetings trying to help clear the path for our amazing team of Developers working on Manufacturing at Autodesk. So, if I don't respond immediately, it's not that I don't care.
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Message 41 of 47

@LibertyMachine, Fusion God and Java Wizard! Knew I could count on you!

I'll try it right away! Smiley Happy

 

/David

Message 42 of 47

I......wouldn't go that far. Just someone who's arrogant confident enough to try to help outside my comfort zone.


Seth Madore
Owner, Liberty Machine, Inc.
Good. Fast. Cheap. Pick two.
Message 43 of 47
Steinwerks
in reply to: LibertyMachine

@LibertyMachine

 

You went the full-blown route!

 

I would've just suggested replacing this line in the tapping cycles:

 

pitchOutput.format(F)

 

with this:

 

pitchOutput.format(tool.threadPitch)

Neal Stein



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Message 44 of 47
LibertyMachine
in reply to: Steinwerks

Yeah...I started off like that and it worked. But one thing led to another and next thing I knew I had it fully decked out in that area. It was a fun learning exercise for me.

I've got this Setup I really need to be working on right now, but I'm having more enjoyment over here Smiley Tongue


Seth Madore
Owner, Liberty Machine, Inc.
Good. Fast. Cheap. Pick two.
Message 45 of 47

Worked like a frickin' charm!Smiley Very Happy

 

/David

 

 

Message 46 of 47
verkstadsdator
in reply to: Steinwerks

I should have guessed that you were at it too, @Steinwerks, you two guys are just incredible. And since I learned from Instagram that you're a fan of Scandinavia, I'm starting to grow quite a fan of both Iowa and Maine.Smiley Happy

 

/ David (@skeldepth)

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brianrepp
in reply to: verkstadsdator

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