pitch diameter offset wrong?

[adamporto]

i just started using thread milling and it appears the pitch diameter offset setting is wrong.

note says required if the hole is NOT drawn to the minor diameter.

my model is drawn to the minor diameter and i had to use this offset to make contact and actually thread the hole

Note needs to say required if the hole IS drawn to the minor diameter.

all we do is hardened steel here and this worked great once we figured it out.

it would be nice if it would auto calculate each step over base on the major and minor diameter

also if its possible to define the Major and minor diameter that would be nice

heres  a link to a sample

http://a360.co/2jICbPE

Thanks

[LibertyMachine]

You are correct, that is misleading:

@paul.clauss could you send this along and point out the error?

[adamporto]

OK cool just making sure i wasn't missing something. hopefully that can be corrected with the next release really just the note need to change. but hoping some more features i mentioned can be added later

[mike.mattera]

@LibertyMachine Are you doing Inside or outside threads. I'm wondering if that will make a difference in the way it should be documented? 

[LibertyMachine]

While that is a good point, the tooltip does say hole. For it to make the most sense, it should say "If the HOLE is not drawn to minor size" or if the POST/STUD is drawn to major size" and then of course, you would need an example, I'd imagine.

[mike.mattera]

"Required if the hole is Not drawn to the Minor size, or if the Boss/Cylinder is drawn to the Major size."

That looks good to me, if this works for you I can add it right now.  I think my original testing may have been for Bosses.

[LibertyMachine]

Gasp. You're the tooltip guy??

[adamporto]

this is for a hole, it it  was stud then the wording would be correct, i guess a clear explanation is need to determine what is needed. but it does say "hole"

[adamporto]

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@mike.mattera wrote:

"Required if the hole is Not drawn to the Minor size, or if the Boss/Cylinder is drawn to the Major size."

That looks good to me, if this works for you I can add it right now.  I think my original testing may have been for Bosses.

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i think you have it backwards.

Required if the hole IS drawn to the Minor size, or if the Boss/Cylinder IS drawn to the Major size

[mike.mattera]

"Gasp. You're the tooltip guy??"

You're scaring me @LibertyMachine.   It that a good thing that I'm the tooltip guy?

BTW:  I need confirmation. Do you like the wording I posted?

[LibertyMachine]

I like the wording, but @adamporto is correct, the "NOT" should not be there:

"Required if the hole is drawn to the Minor size, or if the Boss/Cylinder is drawn to the Major size."

And it's just always nice to know is responsible for what area of the software. That way when something arises, I/We don't have to carpet bomb with Autodesk employee tagging. Unless we just want to do that for fun...

[mike.mattera]

"Required if the hole is drawn to the Minor size, or if the Boss/Cylinder is drawn to the Major size."

Consider this done. You'll see it in the release on the 18th.

Always concerned when someone says  "So Your The Guy....?"

At that point you're either going to get a hug or a verbal lashing.  🙂

If you have suggestions for specific wording on tooltips, you can post here in the forum, or message/email me directly.

Thanks for your help in clearing this up.

[lorensunding]

I was wondering if this issue was solved yet. I am using version 2.0.2727 of Fusion 360 and the thread mill pitch diameter offset window still says "Required if the hole is not drawn to minor diameter."

[mike.mattera]

This is what I'm seeing in V 2.0.2862 (current release)

[lorensunding]

Ok, I guess I'm not running the most current version, thought I noticed it update recently.

Cheers,

Loren

[scottmoyse]

The wording is correct in this tooltip, but the image isn't... the image incorrectly calls out the thread depth as the Thread Pitch Diameter. The effect is if you enter the dimension for the references indicated in the image, then you have to double the value to get the correct thread depth. So technically what is shown in the image, is the Thread Pitch Radius. cc @mike.mattera

I suppose "This is the thread depth, and the value is always positive" isn't quite right from a wording standpoint, when considered relative to the actual value required to mill to the desired thread depth. You could probably just remove that sentence and then change the image callouts to show you need to input the difference between the Major and Minor diameters if a pitch diameter value is required.

Thinking about it now after writing all this... this tooltip is probably best served with two images, threads on a Boss and threads on a hole and calling out where the modelled face is.

[angelo.juras]

I like Boss/Cylinder