Radius Point Table need Northing/Easting

[neaton]

We include curb curve information in a curve table that includes the Northing and Easting of the radius point. In 2018 the only options for feature curves doesn't include the radius point so we are hand entering the information into a table which is prone to error. Does anyone have a solution that we just aren't seeing?

Nancy

[wfberry]

You can create a point number with Northings & Eastings by snapping to  the radius point of the arc.

Then make a point table.

Bill

[neaton]

Thanks, Bill, but we need the curve information also which you can't get from a point table so would be using two tables which I was hoping to avoid. Our RP table has columns for Sta, Offset, Length, Radius, Northing and Easting and we end up gathering all the information and hand entering the data into a generic table which can have typos. After looking at it some more the easiest solution would be a curve table that references an alignment for the station and offset information but I don't see a way to do that.

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@wfberry wrote:

You can create a point number with Northings & Eastings by snapping to  the radius point of the arc.

Then make a point table.

Bill

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[Nilesh_Chaudhari]

Hi,

I think you can create a point table or curve table that reference alignment for the station.

If this does not work then please let me know. 

[neaton]

You can add alignment properties to a curve but the radius point isn't one of the available properties. "Station Value" is for the midpoint of the curve, not the radius point.

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@Nilesh_Chaudhari wrote:

Hi,

I think you can create a point table or curve table that reference alignment for the station.

If this does not work then please let me know. 

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[Neilw_05 · Accepted solution]

You may want to look into an expression. Don't know the math off-hand. Also don't know if it will show in a table.

[neaton · Accepted solution]

Thanks, @Neilw_05 , that is the conclusion I have come to. I hope they can be used in tables.

Nancy

[ChrisRS · Accepted solution]

I think that this does what you want:

You can trick the table text component editor by pasting in unavailable contents.

I start by making a curve label that has the contents that I want.
In this case, I added "General Segment Curve Center X" and  "General Segment Curve Center X" to a curve label.

Once the curve label works, edit that curve label style, open the text component editor, then select and copy the relevant contents. I copied both X and Y components.

Edit the Curve Table style. On the Data  Properties tab add a field or fields for the radius point information.

Double click on the header cell and type in the Header Text, (Red box)

Double click on the column value cell. Paste the text that you copied from the other label into the text component editor. Edit as necessary. (Blue Box) When you select the component you can edit the properties, even thought it is not directly available.

There are a few examples here. You would not use all in the same table.

First (Blue) Radius Point X and Y in line. Note the "X:" and "Y:" text

Second (Green and Magenta) X and y in separate fields.

Third (Red) Radius Point X and Y stacked. Note the "X:" and "Y:" text

I suppose that this is an unsupported feature,  but it seems to be stable.

 I hope that this is what you need.

Good Luck!

[neaton]

Thanks, @ChrisRS! I'll try it Monday when I'm back at work.

[Neilw_05]

What a great idea. This may be useful in other scenarios.

[ChrisRS]

Thanks for the kind words, @Neilw_05 .

I have used this technique successfully in other situations.

I got the idea somewhere in this forum.

I would love to give credit to the originator, but do not remember when or what post.