Profile View is duplicating when adding structures to it

[Anonymous]

Hi there,

I hope someone else has run into this because I can't finish my plans without an answer.  I am working on a roadway improvement project, one of many I have worked on so I am doing nothing different than the way I have always done it. But this time it is different. First my structures in profile started displaying pipe outlines on every pipe entering into the structure not just the ones perpendicular to the alignment.  The only way I found to correct this problem (and yes I know how to display it correctly in the profile view properties) is to delete the structure in the profile, select it in plan view and add it back to the profile view. Well I was doing this and it was going fine, considering that I had to redo part of my work, then I moved on to another alignment, deleted the affected structures but this time when I added the new structures (and some pipes) instead of adding them to the existing profile view, the program duplicated the profile view and put the new objects on the new profile view!?! If I try to delete either the existing profile view or the copied profile view, either the objects I just added disappear with the copied one or the objects that I did not erase disappear if I delete the existing one.  Does that make sense? Also, I notice it duplicates the profiles as well but when you select one they appear to be one object.  One last thing, when I look at my other profile views for other alignments, most of my pipe networks are gone! even the ones I just re-added to the previous profile view. All I can say now is HELP!

[wfberry]

I doubt if you are going to get much of a response with what you have furnished.  Perhaps you could attach a partial .dwg that shows the same problem.

Bill

[Anonymous]

Sorry I hardly ever post on this Forum. I can usually find my answer without having to post.  I am attaching a file. It is very large that is why I didn't attach it to begin with. The affected profile is the road named Osceola Rd. on sheets (layouts) 18 & 19.  I hope this helps. By the way, I am self taught so I am sure I am not doing everything exactly the right way, just so you know. Thanks!

[KirkWM]

I think I know what's up. I've recently had this experience. When you have multiple profile views in the same file using the same pipe network, NEVER click a pipe or structure and hit delete, this will delete it from every profile view. The only way to get things to look correct, is to dive down in deep list of pnet objects in the profile view properties, and manually check / uncheck objects you want displayed or not (if the profile is mostly all created, if not you can just click the pnet objects and add individually to the profile). In the same vein, if one pipe is parallel to one alignment (or profile view) but crossing another, you have to go to the profile view properties again and do a style OVERRIDE otherwise it will change the style of the object in all of the profiles to the one you select. Hope I guessed your situation correctly, gl!

[Anonymous]

Thanks so much for your input.  I have never had the problem of using one pipe network in multiple profile views before.  The problem is what I stated early on in my first post... I was deleting the structures because on the initial problem of the pipe outlines showing up for every pipe or no pipe at all. I always use the profile view properties to make the pipe outlines appear the correct way but for some reason or some toggle switch within the program has changed and It will not let me view the pipe outlines without viewing all of the pipe outlines.  If I just ignore this, the engineers and reviewers will wonder why there are so many pipes showing coming into the box in the profile but not the plan... So I decided to try to delete them and reinsert them which worked only it duplicated my profile view and deleted all the pipes in the other profile views not just the ones I deleted... Thanks again but my problem is still not resolved.

[KirkWM]

Sorry your having trouble, are you using 2017? From what I've experienced, hitting the delete button on any pnet object becomes more trouble. I'm not sure what happened that you have a duplicate profile view sorry. Can you roll back to previous file?  I kind of see what you mean if there are parallel sewers and if "perpendicular" connecting pipes at manholes along with the ellipses of other connected pipes, it can be a bit much.  I think I overlooked one thing that the manhole view style in profile has a display pipe outline option which you can use to turn off all the the ellipses within the manhole. Sorry and good luck!

As a side note, in case you'd like a smaller filesize, set PROXYGRAPHICS to 0.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, I am using 2017.  I was not having this issue until just recently.  This drawing has a history behind it, it was started in 2010 as a land desktop drawing and later in 2012 or 2013 into a Civil 3d drawing but I had always left the profiles alone.  Then at the end of 2016 I was asked to widen the roads which increased the pipe sizes so instead of trying to manually change all of the profiles I decide to redraw them all with the intelligence of Civil 3D.  Shortly after that I ran into the structure pipe outline problem which I thought I found the answer to (by deleting the structures and reinserting them or a workaround) but that only created the duplicate profile view problem.  I just spent almost the entire day typing messages to and Autodesk Rep. only to have him give me another workaround which my coworker had already came up with but it was better than the Rep's.  I would use the workaround but I have the fear of the program compounding my problems again when I start tying in a corridor and cutting cross sections...  I just don't understand why Autodesk can't wait an extra year or two before they push a product out the door. Oh wait... I know the answer to that one... We all know the answer to that one... Thanks anyway!

So I have successfully stumped the community twice today (see my question about pressure pipes) 🐵