Pipe End Rule?

[Anonymous]

I am trying to run two parallel pipes at different slopes in model between two structures.  Maybe I am misunderstanding the Pipe End Rule..... or it doesn't work because I can't figure it out, I give it an offset and it does nothing.

Am I using the right rule?

Is this another broken feature?

Is there anything else preventing it from working?

[civilman1957]

Sorry...that can't be done in parallel. You can create two pipes, one above the other, but the connection point for pipes in any structure is on the centerline of the structure, be it the center point or at the inner or outer wall.

[Anonymous]

What is the point of the end pipe rule then?

I guess the solution is to design a pipe that is off in plan view so that it correctly displays in the profile views then draw them in plan view manually (fudge them in)

[civilman1957]

The pipe end rule tells the pipes that come into a structure where they connect to that structure. Out of the box dictates that they connect at the center line of the structure. However, in the real world, that doesn't happen - the pipes are built, roughly, to the inside wall of a structure. So, you have the option to tell the pipes, through the pipe end rule, to end at either the inside structure wall, or the outside wall...and you also have an additional option to add whatever offset you want to THAT, to allow, say 3 more inches of penetration into the structure.

However, C3D has the limitation of connecting only one pipe from structure to structure...that's just how it is. I've seen folks create the pipes and then draw over them manually with a double pipe, so it at least shows correct graphically. It's a shortcoming, one among many...

I've not experimented enough with the part builder to know if you can create a double pipe as a part...anyone know?

[Hidden_Brain]

"However, C3D has the limitation of connecting only one pipe from structure to structure...that's just how it is."

I am able to connect two pipes between structures (HWs, MHs, inlets). I am using 2013.

[jmayo-EE]

Did you do that with rules or with the grip edit trick?

Select the pipe, make sure osnaps are off and grip the end to where ou want it connected. DOn't release the mouse button unitl you see the pipe connection glyph.

[Hidden_Brain]

Yes, grip editing pipes. I just keep an eye on the connection glyph (the one that looks like a steering wheel of a ship) when moving the pipes so that I do not accidentally disconnect them.

[jmayo-EE]

"I've not experimented enough with the part builder to know if you can create a double pipe as a part...anyone know?"

I am sure it can be done but don't know of anyone who has tried.

Another option, quick, down and dirty, for plan views only is to set up a pipe and style that makes the OD and ID lines look like two pipes. I have done this in the past as well to prevent grip editing every connection not on-center.