moving all elements (surface, alignments, corridor, pipenetwork)

moving all elements (surface, alignments, corridor, pipenetwork)

F.Camargo
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moving all elements (surface, alignments, corridor, pipenetwork)

F.Camargo
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Hello everyone!
How are you?

 

After finish all my project, i recieved a notification the cordinates of my project is wrong. I need to move a little bit all my drawing, and I don't know what to do that, cause I have some objects like surface, corridor and pipe network into my drawing.

 

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Does anyone could help me, please?

 

 

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tcorey
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Do you know about this?

 



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F.Camargo
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@tcorey  escreveu:

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Do you know about this?

 


Hi @tcorey 

No. I don't

 

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I don't have that option here. 

 

Fabricio

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Joe-Bouza
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Hi Tim is that something that’s works when a survey is provided in arbitrary coordinates and you want to lineup with state plane?

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F.Camargo
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It's an arbitrary coordinate.

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Just wanna all my drawing point the green coordinate to black coordinate.

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tcorey
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I don't know. I've used it for moving from UTM to State Plane.

 

 



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Pointdump
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Hi Fabricio, old friend,
That's a tough one! For the Surface, you can move the underlying data with MOVE 1.59,2.29,0. The Surface will then move.
But I'm not sure about Alignments, Corridors and Pipe Networks.
So what happened? Why does your drawing need to move?
I think the Coordinate Transformation Tool is a separate installation, so look for it in your account page.
One possible way is to create a custom Affine Projection, using that shift. Then you can use the Coordinate Transformation Tool.
Dave

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F.Camargo
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Hi @Pointdump my old friend. How are you?
How can I get that Coordinate Transformation Tool?

 

I am using autocad civil 3d 2022

 

Thanks

Fabricio

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Pointdump
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Hi Fabricio,
The Coordinate Transformation Tool is a separate install. You'll need to go to your Account Page:

https://manage.autodesk.com/

Under "All Products and Services" click Civil 3D >> 2022 and then once again on Civil 3D. Under "Available Downloads" click "Extensions" and scroll down a bit to see "Coordinates Transformation Tool 2022.0.1 for Civil 3D". Note: You might need to update Civil 3D before installing.
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F.Camargo
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@Pointdump  escreveu:

Hi Fabricio,
The Coordinate Transformation Tool is a separate install. You'll need to go to your Account Page:

https://manage.autodesk.com/

Under "All Products and Services" click 2022 and then once on Civil 3D. Under "Available Downloads" click "Extensions" and scroll down a bit to see "Coordinates Transformation Tool 2022.0.1 for Civil 3D". Note: You might need to update Civil 3D before installing.
Dave


Thanks Dave!

I was wondering, if I create a new UCS coordinate. It maybe work, right?

It is just x= -1.59 and y=-2.50 to move.

 

Fabricio

 

 

 

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Pointdump
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Fabricio,
"I was wondering, if I create a new UCS coordinate. It maybe work, right? It is just x= -1.59 and y=-2.50 to move."
That probably won't work, because UCS is an AutoCAD function, and Civil 3D Objects don't play by the same rules as Vanilla AutoCAD.

Can you post your drawing?
Dave

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Message 12 of 22

F.Camargo
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I've already sent my dwg file.
Thanks
Fabricio
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MikeEvansUK
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I think the best way to do this is probably to create a new file then Xref the original into this.

Reposition the Xref and bind the drawing.

I've used this for transferring corrupt drawings or reposition many of times. Using the Xref function allows transformation of coordinate systems.

 

When exploded, you should have the drawing as it was previously but in the new location.

Alignments or profiles with some entities (best fit etc) may need to be revised.

Surfaces will include a transform unit, you can erase this as the originating geometry will be in the new position.

 

You may need to go back through and check the objects are correct, rebuild coridors etc. but I don't recall having a lot of probolems with this method.

 

Mike

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Pointdump
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Fabricio,
Thanks for sending me a link to your drawing.
I totally failed to make my idea work.
I had to download the Coordinate Transformation Tool, because I didn't have it in my Civil 3D 2025. I first updated C3D, Map3D, AutoCAD, and my Windows 10 operating system. (That took 1 hour.)
I created an Affine Coordinate System reflecting the shift of 1.59,2.29. I tried twice to transform your drawing to the newly created Affine Coordinate System. "Unhandled Exception" both times. I suspect that the Coordinate Transformation Tool will NOT transform to a custom coordinate system.
Looks like Mike's method is probably your best way forward.
Dave

 

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Message 15 of 22

F.Camargo
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Dave
Thank for take your time to help me. I really appreciated it!

I've already send my dwg file Mike. I hope he could help me too.

Otherwise, I am trying to do just like he said, with no success!
Fabricio
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F.Camargo
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@MikeEvansUK 

It isn't working too... surface (triangulation) isn't match with the corridor.

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Seems it doesn't have any solution. 😢😭

 

Fabricio

 

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MikeEvansUK
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Fabricio this is because when you move a surface C3d adds a transform edit to the surface properties.


as the geometry designing the surface is moved you’ll see a double shift in the surface, you just need to erase this transform edit from the surface and rebuild then all should be fine.

 

mike

 

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Message 18 of 22

F.Camargo
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@MikeEvansUK  escreveu:

Fabricio this is because when you move a surface C3d adds a transform edit to the surface properties.


as the geometry designing the surface is moved you’ll see a double shift in the surface, you just need to erase this transform edit from the surface and rebuild then all should be fine.

 

mike

 


@MikeEvansUK Nice!! 👍

But

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My assembly isn't matching with the feature lines. I have some features lines to modeling intersection corridors.

 

Is there anything that I can do to soved it, please?


Thanks

Fabricio

 

 

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MikeEvansUK
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Have dm you.

 

interesting, I don’t use intersections as they model the profile incorrectly and to be honest I find it simpler / more preferable to do them manually.

 

from memory, these target alignments and profiles. If these are also offset they may have been created differently to regular entities and can’t be repositioned.

 

not sure if you could change the elements to be correctly aligned.

 

I’ll have a look and get back to you.

 

mike

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Message 20 of 22

F.Camargo
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@MikeEvansUK 

I don’t use intersection tool. I prefer modeling the curb as a feature line and set custom assembly manually and using target alignments and profiles.

 

i think the problem is the base point of the assembly isn’t matching the feature line. 
just like the surface problem that I had. you helped me to fix it.

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