Minor grid line scale issue

[jwintersJ4UUZ]

I am having an issue with my minor grid line scaling. When I set the scale to 4 the profile is adding extra space at beginning which is causing the minor lines to be off. Scale 1-3 seem to work just fine but anything larger than 3 starts to add this extra space. Company just upgraded to 2024 and we are trying to work out the new version kinks. Any ideas? 

[BrianHailey]

Can you share a screenshot of how you want it to look? I.e. with the linetype scale set to a value that "works". I'm not sure I understand the issue.

[jwintersJ4UUZ]

Here is an snipit of a profile setup in 2023. Notice the lack of extra gap, at beginning, on the minor horizontal grid lines with 20' increments.

[BrianHailey]

I think I understand. You're trying to get the dots in the horizontal linetype to match up with the vertical lines. Does that sound correct? It also looks like you're trying this in a new drawing. If that's the case, copy the style from the older drawing into the newer drawing and see if it displays the way you want. If it does, then it's not an issue with 2024, it's an issue with the style. If it doesn't, then it could be a 2024 issue or a different issue with the drawing itself. What happens if you open the older drawing in 2024? 

[jwintersJ4UUZ]

I think I understand. You're trying to get the dots in the horizontal linetype to match up with the vertical lines. Does that sound correct? - Yes

It also looks like you're trying this in a new drawing. If that's the case, copy the style from the older drawing into the newer drawing and see if it displays the way you want. - I pulled in the style to try that before posting and it doesn't display correctly. I also had two (2) other people try to eliminate it being an issue with my specific setup.

What happens if you open the older drawing in 2024?  - They display correctly. My reply snipit was a 2022 created project opened today in 2024. I also opened a couple more drawings varying 2018-2023 with same result. It appears to only be drawings created in 2024.

[BrianHailey]

So that means there's something in your new drawing that is different than your old drawing and it doesn't sound like it's necessarily a 2024 issue (because you can open the old drawings in 2024 and they display correctly). Can you share the drawing where it is working correctly and the one where it isn't working correctly?

[jwintersJ4UUZ]

Drawings attached. Thanks for the help. 

[BrianHailey · Accepted solution]

In order for that linetype to work in your profile views, your profile views must be in exact 100' station increments. Your profile view goes from station 0+00 to 2+90. Change it so it goes 0+00 to 3+00 and your linetypes will work correctly.

[MMcCall402 · Accepted solution]

Another option is to use the Grid Vertical Minor component for that grid component instead of the horizontal minor grid.  Works with any station increment.

[jwintersJ4UUZ]

Thanks! I thought the grids and scales all worked off left profile. Still odd that it adds extra spacing. I guess that is why scale 1, 2, and 3 worked since it was at a 10' increment. After reading your solution, I tried 2+80 and 3+20 and the scale 4 worked fine.  I always end my profiles at 20' increments since that is what tick mark spacing we use and therefore never had this issue. But this isn't my drawing, I was just tasked with fixing the issue and couldn't. So thank you and it is very much appreciated!

[jwintersJ4UUZ]

That was actually my temporary fix for that profile.  I used to use this method instead of horizontal and it worked for years at my last company. This company has a dept. that likes to be different and uses vertical scale of 1"=3', so that doesn't work half the time with my template. I just need to tell the new guys to not let civil3d auto assign station/elevation on profiles. Appreciate the reply!