FEATURE LINES -- Create by snapping to COGO points?

FEATURE LINES -- Create by snapping to COGO points?

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FEATURE LINES -- Create by snapping to COGO points?

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Struggling to create breaklines, I've been trying to create feature lines to convert, by snapping from COGO point to COGO point, but that option is not offered in the feature line selection in the Create Design panel.  

 

Similarly, if I use 3dpoly in hopes of creating a 3d polyline to convert to a feature line, when I snap from point to point I get a simple polyline at Z=0 for all points.  

 

What am I missing?  Surely they don't want us to enter the elevation for each of the several hundred points we're trying to incorporate into breaklines!

 

Thanks.

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Jeff_M
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Are the PointStyles set to flatten? If so, change them to use the Point Elevation. Is OSNAPZ=0.
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Jeff_M
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You could also use the 'PO transparent command to get the elevation of the point regardless of the style's setting. To use this, invoke the command to create featureline or 3dpoly, when prompted for the point, enter 'PO then select the cogopoint objects themselves, no need for object snaps.
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doni49
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@Anonymous wrote:

 

Struggling to create breaklines, I've been trying to create feature lines to convert, by snapping from COGO point to COGO point, but that option is not offered in the feature line selection in the Create Design panel.  

 

Similarly, if I use 3dpoly in hopes of creating a 3d polyline to convert to a feature line, when I snap from point to point I get a simple polyline at Z=0 for all points.  

 

What am I missing?  Surely they don't want us to enter the elevation for each of the several hundred points we're trying to incorporate into breaklines!

 

Thanks.


Once you've confirmed that the points are NOT set to FLATTEN (as Jeff_M already said) if you want to connect these points in numerical order, you could use the "CREATE LINE BY POINT RANGE" tool.  It'll prompt you for the point range(s) and then will connect the points in numerical order.  What will create is individual lines though.  So once that's done, use the JOIN command (type JOIN at the command line) and you can join all these lines into one 3d polyline which you can then use as a featureline.



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I always run with everything in 3D, the trick to this when doing Survey related work (which I do every day) is to use the right command for the right task. CGLIST is your best friend when you need to get a two dimensional distance on a line, that might be drawn with a slope (3D). I have even placed that along with CGANG in my quick access toolbar.

 

If your points are flatten to Z=0, you'll be drawing everything at zero, however by using the Survey Database and linework coding you can have the line work come in on import. While this does not capture all the planmetrics of a site, a good majority (roughly 90%) could be coded in the field and drawn on import (with good crews and training), these survey figures in turn would be used as breaklines for a EG surface, which would also contain both horizonal and vertical offsets (i.e. curb and gutter).

 

If this is all set-up correctly, you could basically import the data and make minor edits as needed, then select your figures and add them to a surface that is already created in your template, with the appropriate groups for the additional data beyond the breaklines (i.e. NG or Pavement shots)

 

Doing this will turn that surface that could take days in to a surface that takes hours.


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PointStyles are NOT set to Flatten.

OSNAPZ=1.

 

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Set OSNAPZ=0 then it will read the point elevation


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@Anonymous wrote:

 

If your points are flatten to Z=0, you'll be drawing everything at zero, however by using the Survey Database and linework coding you can have the line work come in on import. While this does not capture all the planmetrics of a site, a good majority (roughly 90%) could be coded in the field and drawn on import (with good crews and training), these survey figures in turn would be used as breaklines for a EG surface, which would also contain both horizonal and vertical offsets (i.e. curb and gutter).

 

If this is all set-up correctly, you could basically import the data and make minor edits as needed, then select your figures and add them to a surface that is already created in your template, with the appropriate groups for the additional data beyond the breaklines (i.e. NG or Pavement shots)

 

Doing this will turn that surface that could take days in to a surface that takes hours.


This is how we do it and it saves many hours of work. The key is getting the survey figure prefix database setup, your template, and making sure the field guys code correctly. Like Jackson said, about 90% of the line work is already created from just importing the points. As long as your survey figures have the breakline attribute turned on for the proper ones, it's extremely easy to import all breaklines into a drawing to create for a surface using a survey query. 

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All, the 'PO option used with feature lines worked perfectly for drawing 3d feature lines between survey points. Thanks, Jeff K.
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SchwartzBwithU
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I had to turnoff Autocorrect. It kept changing OSNAPZ to OSNAP and bringing up that menu.

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