Convert 32 drawings from ARCH units to Decimal and dimension edits needed for each

Convert 32 drawings from ARCH units to Decimal and dimension edits needed for each

RobertEVs
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Convert 32 drawings from ARCH units to Decimal and dimension edits needed for each

RobertEVs
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We need to convert 32 existing drawing files from architectural units to Decimal. Next in model space everything has to be scaled by 1/12 which leaves dimensions with large leaders. All dimension text needs to be converted to Decimal as well. 

Not sure why the leaders remain large and do not scale down by 1/12 too. 

Easiest/quickest way to replicate this conversion for all 32 CAD drawings?

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Pointdump
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Hi Robert,
"Easiest/quickest way" would be to XRef them into the drawing you're working on. Change Insertion Units to Arch and let C3D handle things automatically.
Dave

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RobertEVs
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Thank for the reply Dave. Why would I change the insertion units to ARCH when I want to convert from ARCH to Decimal.

Also how do you set the insertion units in a xref attach?

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Pointdump
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Hi Robert,
When you set Insertion Scale to Inches you're telling C3D that you are inserting, or Xreffing in, a drawing whose units are Architectural. C3D automatically scales things.
"how do you set the insertion units in a xref attach?"

Set command UNITS before you Xref in the arch drawing. And set it back to decimal if you then want to Xref in a decimal drawing.
Dave

 

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RobertEVs
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Thank you. However, no matter what I used as insertion scale inches, feet, unitless the xref ARCH plan always came in 12x the size. I had to set Attach External Reference: Scale to 1/12 and uniform. Then my xref comes in at proper decimal scale.

Unless I was supposed to set the UNITS length type to Architectural in my Decimal Drawing then xref in using inches?

 

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Pointdump
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Hi Robert,
Sorry, looks like I'm wrong. I coulda swore changing insertion units worked for me in the past.
I just created some dummy data to test, and it didn't work.
Dave

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RobertEVs
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No problem, Thanks for the information

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Pointdump
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Robert,
Can you post a decimal drawing and an arch drawing? I'd like to test something.
Dave

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RobertEVs
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I'll need to get permissions. Let you know soon

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RobertEVs
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Here are the two ARCH drawing with the template 11x17 & 87.5x11.dwt file I'm using.

The ARCH dwg file is typical of all 32 conversion needed drawings with Architectural units and the DWT template is set to Decimal units.

I have been basically opening the ARCH drawing(s) and on the layout tab From Template.. I add my dwt layout. I then take that layout with it's VP and Scalebar and copy paste into the ARCH SHEET 3 layout, go into model space and scale everything 1/12, Back to PS and replace the two VP's, find my desired project linework and set a final VP decimal scale.

Does all that make sense? Looking for a better way to do this if possible.

Note: I have reduced down this ARCH drawing to only the single SHEET 3 layout (for your testing) as each of the 32 drawings have several layouts that all need to be done this same way.

 

 

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Pointdump
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Hi Robert,
Your "ARCH.dwg" is not inch(architectural) units. It's feet units.
I opened it with vanilla AutoCAD to check, because sometimes Civil 3D will fib.
Dave

 

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RobertEVs
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So do I want to set my ARCH dwgs to inches and in my decimal template set insertion units to feet?

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Pointdump
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Robert,
Since both drawings are feet units, you don't have anything to scale. Set insertion units to unitless so that no scaling will happen.

I don't understand what you're doing with layout tabs.
Dave

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RobertEVs
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I mention the layouts because there are 6-7 of them in each of the 32 drawing files needing converted. The test dwg I posted here is just ONE layout. Meaning I have to do these new scalebar linked VP scalings 200+ times  

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obulesub
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Hi @RobertEVs ,

I wanted to check in and see if you still needed assistance, or if you found a solution to your question already? Let us know if you need further assistance by providing an update or if you have found a solution, please share it with the community so other members who may have the same question could learn from your experience.

All the best,

Obulesu| Community Manager

Obulesu | Community Manager
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