Applying overrides to labels

lhunt
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Applying overrides to labels

lhunt
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As the name suggests I am looking for a method, or something close, to be able to keep overrides on labels when they are switched to a different style.

 

Essentially I have to design using certain styles, but then after a certain point I need to switch the labels to a different set. However the styles require me to write in (override) text in the style specific to each label. They then will disappear and have to be re-written when the label style changes. I would like the text edits to stay, just change the style.

 

I assume this isn't possible, but perhaps there is a way to expedite this.

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jmayo-EE
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Better to edit the model, make new label styles with the edits you need or see if property sets will meet your needs.

 

Label overrides are dangerous for BIM and plan production workflows (model and labels don't match) and will not carry over through Dref's, xml or other data sharing methods.

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lhunt
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The Information is mostly cosmetic, so the labels I'm worried about is not so much important for GIS. I just have a lot of them to do

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MMcCall402
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I agree with Jmayo-EE. Too much use of label overrides is a recipe for disaster.

 

See if you can incorporate the the information you need in the label into some property of the object being labeled. Then have both label styles access that property in their label.

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tcorey
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Create a label style in the production drawing. Style it for during design. Drag and drop that style to a new drawing. Inside this new drawing, edit the label style to how you want it in output. DO NOT CHANGE THE NAME. OF THE STYLE.  Save this drawing. Close or leave open.

 

Switch back to the design drawing. Do your design work and add your Label Overrides. When you're ready to change the labels to the output style, use ImportStylesAndSettings command. Use Uncheck All, then drill into the settings to find the style(s) that need updating in the other drawing. Checkmark those.

 

Uncheck (lower left corner) the option to Import settings.

 

Press OK. Your overridden labels will take on the new style, but will still contain the overrides.

 



Tim Corey
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MMcCall402
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I would imagine the component names within the two label styles would need to be consistent for the label component that is being overridden.

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tcorey
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That is the case. If you add the override to the Radius component, but then edit the radius component out of the label style before you re-import it, you'll break the override. Don't do that. 😉

 



Tim Corey
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lhunt
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I see how this would work, however the 'output' style as you put it (the style I need to change it to) is already in the drawing. So I would update the production style to match the properties of the output style but it would still be the production style label. I would have to then delete the original output style and re-name it to that. basically the same amount of work I'd assume

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tcorey
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What you need to do is use a single style name. Call it Whatever. 

 

In This drawing, stylize Whatever for production/design. 

 

Copy the style into Another drawing; the style is still called Whatever. Modify the style to how you want it for output.

 

Import the style called Whatever from Another drawing to This drawing. The style is still called Whatever but it now displays for output, and your label overrides remain intact.



Tim Corey
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