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Revit : placer un composant sur une surface courbe

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Revit : placer un composant sur une surface courbe

pascalbal
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Bonjour,

voici mon problème.

J'ai créé un composant (petit cylindre) que j'aimerai positionner sur une sphère créée avec l'outil volume. (capture d'écran)

Je voudrais recouvrir l'ensemble de la sphère avec mes petits cylindres.

J'ai texté avec l'outil géode, mais cela ne fonctionne pas.

J'arrive à accrocher le composant sur la surface de la sphère et à le bouger tout en suivant la surface sphérique.(mais la position est aléatoire)

Mais impossible de coller un autre cylindre et de garder la position en x et y en utilisant la fonction aligner.

 

Dans un premier temps j'aimerai réaliser un anneau de petits cylindres sur l'équateur.

Ensuite un anneau perpendiculaire  (méridien) pour ensuite remplir.

il faut 2 points d'accroche par anneau ce que ne fait pas  REVIT car c'est un cylindre.

Merci d'avance pour vos pistes

Pascal


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placer un composant sur une surface courbe

 

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francis_l-haridon
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Bonjour

 

Peut-être que tu y arrivera mieux avec les composants adaptatifs, histoire de placer une famille sur une grille ayant la forme désirée. Cf. un exemple sur ce fil.

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jfbrigaud
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Bonjour @pascalbal 

Pour faire ceci j'utiliserais :

Les surfaces divisées (motif) et une famille de panneau adaptatif basée sur un motif.

Vous trouverez sur YouTube des exemples faites une recherche avec les mots: pattern based family.

Cordialement.


Jean-François Brigaud

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christian.stan
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bonjour, 

cela pourrait faire un bon exercice dynamo (une piste peut être aussi à explorer)

cordialement

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jfbrigaud
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En fait avec la famille de panneau ça ne va pas. J'ai essayé une autre voie:

  1. J'ai créé le cylindre (paramétrique) dans une famille modèle générique adaptatif.
  2. J'ai créé une famille de volume pour réaliser la sphère. Division de la surface de la sphère + affichage des nœuds.
  3. Chargement de la famille cylindre dans la famille sphère.
  4. Placement des cylindres sur les nœuds, je n'ai pas utilisé la fonction répéter car j'ai plusieurs types de cylindres (diamètres différents).
  5.  Chargement de la famille de volume dans le RVT.
  6. Il est possible d'ajouter des rangées de cylindres.
  7. Ci-joint le RVT en version 2023.

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pascalbal
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Merci à tous pour vos pistes, je vais explorer tout ça.

La sphère est présente pour jouer la fonction de support elle sera supprimée par la suite. C'est pour cela que je dois faire se toucher les cylindre entre eux pour que le tout tienne.

Une sphère faite de cylindre en somme, c'est pour ça que j'étais parti initialement sur une géode. afin de coller mon cercle (circonscrit dans le triangle) sur une face.

christian.stan
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Re, ça risque d'être chaud patate si tu veux que tous les cylindres soient tangents entre eux (assure toi mathématiquement que ce soit envisageable, je poserais la à un collègue de math après vacances) doit avoir une relation math entre rext cylindre et R sphère

Sur la base de départ que tu as choisis avec un alignement sur méridien tes rayons de répartition évoluent en partie haute et basse

 

Si tu arrives à générer un maillage a base triangulaire équilatéral tu pourrais aboutir, bon courage

Cordialement

Christian.stan

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christian.stan
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Joli Lego sphérique

😉

Cordialement

Christian.stan

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jfbrigaud
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Bonjour @pascalbal 

       Ah, d'accord je n'avais pas compris, à ce moment là je parts sur la base d'un polyèdre régulier notamment l'icosaèdre. https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icosa%C3%A8dre 

  1. Tracer l'icosaèdre avec Dynamo (voir ici https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/polyhendral/59415/6  le script polyhedron.dyn fournit par Vikram Subbaiah).
  2. Construire les médianes de chaque triangle équilatéral pour définir le centre de gravité de chaque face.
  3. Placer la famille de cylindre sur le centre de gravité de chaque face.
  4. Masquer les éléments de construction (icosaèdre et lignes de construction)
  5. Je peux vous fournir le RVT en version 2024.

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Gaëtan_DENIS
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@jfbrigaud Impressionnant Bravo!

 

Gaëtan

pascal.bal
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C'est exactement ça.

Mais je débute, je ne connais pas dynamo.

je viens de passer de RVT21 à RVT24, faut déjà que je me fasse à l'interface.

J'ai testé hier avec un polygone de 30 faces ( dans mon cas  30 cylindre de diamètre 150 mm donc rayon de 716 mm) ça me fait un périmètre de la sphère.

Mais la difficulté est d'attacher chaque cylindre par un point (comme une chaîne).

 

en utilisant ta méthode je peut le faire sur les triangles d'un dôme?

  1. Construire les médianes de chaque triangle équilatéral pour définir le centre de gravité de chaque face.
  2. Placer la famille de cylindre sur le centre de gravité de chaque face.
  3. Masquer les éléments de construction (icosaèdre et lignes de construction)

j'ai vu qu'il était possible de diviser la sphère

 

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pascal.bal
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En effet, cela ne fonctionne pas pour tout. 45, 90 et 135° c'est ok, les angles plus petit je dois intercaler un cylindre de plus petit diamètre pour faire la jonction.

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We use Google Analytics (Advertising) to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Google Analytics (Advertising). Ads are based on both Google Analytics (Advertising) data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Google Analytics (Advertising) has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Google Analytics (Advertising) to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Google Analytics (Advertising) Privacy Policy
Trendkite
We use Trendkite to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Trendkite. Ads are based on both Trendkite data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Trendkite has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Trendkite to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Trendkite Privacy Policy
Hotjar
We use Hotjar to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Hotjar. Ads are based on both Hotjar data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Hotjar has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Hotjar to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Hotjar Privacy Policy
6 Sense
We use 6 Sense to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by 6 Sense. Ads are based on both 6 Sense data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that 6 Sense has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to 6 Sense to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. 6 Sense Privacy Policy
Terminus
We use Terminus to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Terminus. Ads are based on both Terminus data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Terminus has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Terminus to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Terminus Privacy Policy
StackAdapt
We use StackAdapt to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by StackAdapt. Ads are based on both StackAdapt data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that StackAdapt has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to StackAdapt to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. StackAdapt Privacy Policy
The Trade Desk
We use The Trade Desk to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by The Trade Desk. Ads are based on both The Trade Desk data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that The Trade Desk has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to The Trade Desk to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. The Trade Desk Privacy Policy
RollWorks
We use RollWorks to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by RollWorks. Ads are based on both RollWorks data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that RollWorks has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to RollWorks to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. RollWorks Privacy Policy

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