Autocad with GIS and landfx

Autocad with GIS and landfx

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Autocad with GIS and landfx

carol_kegley
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I want to put a planting plan on a GIS pro base map of a site. I do not understand the scaling between the added GIS base layers and the scale of the plants from landfx. I Added Data through the ArcGIS plug in. These are the base layer for my project. I am also using Landfx. When I measure something on the base layer,I get a number like XY 355 and the distance in feet should be 14'-0. My issue is in model space. I can Add Data Layers through the Arc GIS tab. However, I do not know how to read or understand the scale the added layers are in. They do not read as feet with inches they read possibly as all inches. when I add planting to the drawing the scale of the plants are sixteen times bigger than the layer.

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mattsharon09
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I understand you're having trouble reconciling the scale of your GIS base map layers from ArcGIS Pro with the plant symbols you're placing from Land F/X in AutoCAD. It sounds like the GIS data isn't coming in at a 1:1 scale with your intended working units (feet and inches), causing your plants to appear vastly oversized. Let's break down the issue and some potential solutions in a user-friendly way:  

Understanding the Problem

  • Different Data Sources, Different Scales: GIS data and CAD drawings often operate in different coordinate systems and units. GIS data is frequently in ground units (like feet or meters), which can be very large numbers representing real-world coordinates. AutoCAD, on the other hand, works in drawing units, which you interpret as feet, inches, etc..  
     
  • Unit Mismatch: When you bring in GIS layers, AutoCAD might interpret the GIS units as its base drawing units without any conversion. This is likely why you're seeing those large XY coordinates (like 355) when you measure, and why your plants are huge. It seems like AutoCAD is treating those GIS units as inches, or some other small unit, making everything appear much larger than it should be.  
     
  • Land F/X and Scaling: Land F/X plant symbols are designed to be inserted at a specific size relative to your drawing units. If your drawing units are not correctly scaled to match the GIS data, the plants will appear out of proportion.  
     

Troubleshooting and Solutions

Here's a structured approach to get things aligned:

  1. Verify GIS Data Units:

    • In ArcGIS Pro, find the coordinate system and units of your base map layers. This information is crucial for proper scaling in AutoCAD. Look for metadata or layer properties.
    • Confirm whether the units are feet, meters, or something else.
  2. Establish Your AutoCAD Drawing Units:

    • In AutoCAD, set your drawing units to architectural (feet and inches) or decimal feet, whichever you prefer for your project. Use the UNITS command. This sets how AutoCAD interprets linear measurements.
  3. Scaling the GIS Data:

    • The Correct Way: Instead of arbitrarily scaling (which you've tried), you need to scale based on the actual unit conversion.
      • If your GIS data is in feet and AutoCAD is also set to feet, in theory, no scaling should be needed. However, sometimes there can still be scaling issues due to different coordinate systems or import interpretations.
      • If your GIS data is in meters and you want to work in feet, you'll need to scale the GIS data by the conversion factor (approximately 3.28084 feet per meter). Use the SCALE command in AutoCAD. This is the most likely scenario and the most important scaling to get right.
       
       
    • Reference Points and Measuring:
      • Identify known distances in your GIS data (e.g., building dimensions, property lines). 
         
      • Measure those same distances in AutoCAD after importing the GIS data.
      • Calculate the scale factor needed to make the AutoCAD measurements match the known real-world distances.
      • Use the SCALE command with the appropriate scale factor.
  4. Insertion Scale of Land F/X Plants:

    • Land F/X usually inserts plants at the size defined in its database, relative to your current drawing units.  
       
    • Once you've correctly scaled the GIS data to your AutoCAD drawing, the Land F/X plants should come in at the correct relative size.
    • If you still have issues, double-check your plant symbol sizes in the Land F/X Plant Manager.  
       
  5. Coordinate Systems:

    • While you haven't mentioned it explicitly, keep in mind that different coordinate systems between GIS and AutoCAD can also cause scaling and alignment problems. If you encounter distortions even after unit conversion, you might need to investigate coordinate system transformations, which can be more complex.

I hope this breakdown helps! Scaling between GIS and CAD can be tricky, but by systematically checking your units and using accurate scaling techniques, you can get everything aligned properly.

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