Xref's & Plant 3D Piping

[ksanchez]

im sure im beating a dead horse and the answer is going to probably be no. But maybe some of you can help me clarify.

In plant 3D...Can we add a plant 3d pipe connection to a none plant 3d object? We have a tank in autocad and would like to add a "smart" connection so we can Xref the dwg into P3D in for us to pipe to & from. 

1. open the Autocad file in P3D
2. Add the connection point
3. "Xref" in the dwg. into the project. Yes, Xref.. not add it to the object. (if we "add it" it will create a duplicate/copy. we do not want duplicate info)
4. Start piping between the 2 Xrefs and have the "smart" connection be recognizable through the Xrefs. 

Reason why we want to Xref autocad files is because 80% of the job/model is being done in Autocad and those Xref files are part of the entire project model in autocad. all the actual piping would be done in Plant 3D but we dont want to copy those Xrefs over and make them part of the P3D because then we would have duplictate information that we would have to make sure to update simultaneously every time there is change.   

[milic.srdjan]

Hi,
Are you familiar with this procedure
https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad-plant-3d/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2018/...

In addition, question is
Do you need to count this Tank in your report, and get smart data in plant 3D ?

Best regards, 

Srdjan

[jabowabo]

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@ksanchez wrote:

In plant 3D...Can we add a plant 3d pipe connection to a none plant 3d object? We have a tank in autocad and would like to add a "smart" connection so we can Xref the dwg into P3D in for us to pipe to & from. 

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Not quite the way you want but you can:

• Create an item(s) in a catalog/spec with minimal geometry - a blind flange, plug etc.
  • Note - you can change the physical dimensions completely separate from it's defined size
• Give it the appropriate connection type, facing, etc. and add any needed sizes
• Mark it as 'Existing' in status or just create a filter for BOM/MTO to ignore it
• Place it anywhere in the model - such as nozzle locations or whatever
• Give it a tag so the iso shows the connection info
• Connect piping as required

[ksanchez]

we definitely don't want to recreate the object. We have tons of objects and that would be a lot of re-work. We rather add something than recreate the whole thing.

[Anonymous]

Hey,

without an intiligent Plant 3D Equipment object it is not possible to get a correct Connection with bolts and gasket. Also there is no Connection Point for your Iso´s.

Sure, you can xref your Autocad 3D Solids into an Plant 3D drawing. But without an Plant 3D Equipment it will not work properly.

Actual i have a Project with more then 50 tanks,150 pumps and a lot of other equipment. The Vessels are Advance Steel Objects so i create very simple objects (cylinder with flanges from the plant 3D Equipment module). Sure, at the start this is a bit of work. But i dont want to go through all BOM´s and ISO´s to Count and bring in all bolts and gaskets. We need the correct Iso´s and Bom´s.

At least ist up to you at which Point you want to do the work, but a full solution is not possible.

greetz Patrick

[AminHosseininia]

You can create a block out of the tank and then add it as equipment in p3d so you don’t have to xref it then you can take a MTO/BOM report out of it