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Wrong nominal size for clamps on isometrics (P3D 2016)

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medvegab
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Wrong nominal size for clamps on isometrics (P3D 2016)

Good morning,

 

i have various clamp sizes in my project and the nominal size appears wrong on the isometrics. For example the size NW 15 appears aswell on the  isometric drawing as in the BOM as NW 20.

 

Clamp-3D.jpgClamp-iso.jpgClamp-BOM.jpgClamp.JPG

 

Thanks for your help!

Gab

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h_eger
in reply to: medvegab

Hi @medvegab,

 

Not very easy, please upload the PCF file from your Iso.
There may be many possibilities from the catalog to PipeSpec or an error in the drawing.

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Message 3 of 7
medvegab
in reply to: h_eger

Hi @h_eger,

 

thanks for your fast reply. I know that is not very easy. I've tried a lot of things, but haven't found a right setup.

I think it is going on the size parameters of the clamps. The size NW 15 and NW 20 have the same dimensions in the spec editor.

 

I have created a line with various clamp sizes, but i can't upload the pcf file. 😞

 

Clamps.jpg

Message 4 of 7
bdowd
in reply to: medvegab

I have the same problem in Plant3D 2017, the clamp has the wrong size in the PCF file and it only happens with 3/4"and 1" sizes. I have attached screen shots of the iso's and the pcf file for the 1" pipe is below

 

ISOGEN-FILES  ISOCONFIG.FLS
UNITS-BORE  INCH
UNITS-CO-ORDS  MM
UNITS-WEIGHT  KGS
UNITS-BOLT-DIA  INCH
UNITS-BOLT-LENGTH  MM
PIPELINE-REFERENCE    UserDefinedLine
    DATE-DMY 06 JUL 17
    ATTRIBUTE1  015-158
    PROJECT-IDENTIFIER  015-158
    REVISION  0
END-POSITION-NULL
    CO-ORDS          6122.7596    4322.5674    0.0000
END-POSITION-NULL
    CO-ORDS          6213.2471    4322.5674    0.0000
COUPLING
    END-POINT        6167.2096    4322.5674    0.0000    1.0000  TC
    END-POINT        6122.7596    4322.5674    0.0000    1.0000  PL
    SKEY  FEFA
    ITEM-CODE  test-7
    ITEM-DESCRIPTION  DT-4.1.4-1 A, FERRULE
    FABRICATION-ITEM
    PIPING-SPEC  test
    TRACING-SPEC  
    COMPONENT-ATTRIBUTE1   SERVICE_NA
    COMPONENT-ATTRIBUTE2   BOMCOLUMN_Material_
    COMPONENT-ATTRIBUTE3   BOMCOLUMN_Spec_test
    COMPONENT-ATTRIBUTE4   BOMCOLUMN_LoopNumber_
    COMPONENT-ATTRIBUTE5   BOMCOLUMN_Type_
    COMPONENT-ATTRIBUTE6   BOMCOLUMN_ISOTag_
    COMPONENT-ATTRIBUTE7   BOMCOLUMN_SCHClass_
CLAMP
    END-POINT        6167.2096    4322.5674    0.0000    1.5000  Universal_ET
    SKEY  CLMP
    ITEM-CODE  test-1030
    ITEM-DESCRIPTION  TRI CLAMP
    ERECTION-ITEM
    PIPING-SPEC  test
    TRACING-SPEC  
    COMPONENT-ATTRIBUTE1   SERVICE_NA
    COMPONENT-ATTRIBUTE2   BOMCOLUMN_Material_
    COMPONENT-ATTRIBUTE3   BOMCOLUMN_Spec_test
    COMPONENT-ATTRIBUTE4   BOMCOLUMN_LoopNumber_
    COMPONENT-ATTRIBUTE5   BOMCOLUMN_Type_
    COMPONENT-ATTRIBUTE6   BOMCOLUMN_ISOTag_
    COMPONENT-ATTRIBUTE7   BOMCOLUMN_SCHClass_
GASKET
    END-POINT        6167.2096    4322.5674    0.0000    1.0000
    END-POINT        6168.7971    4322.5674    0.0000    1.0000
    ITEM-CODE  test-666
    ITEM-DESCRIPTION  GASKET - Generic
    ERECTION-ITEM
    PIPING-SPEC  test
    TRACING-SPEC  
    COMPONENT-ATTRIBUTE1   SERVICE_NA
    COMPONENT-ATTRIBUTE2   BOMCOLUMN_Material_
    COMPONENT-ATTRIBUTE3   BOMCOLUMN_Spec_test
    COMPONENT-ATTRIBUTE4   BOMCOLUMN_LoopNumber_
    COMPONENT-ATTRIBUTE5   BOMCOLUMN_Type_
    COMPONENT-ATTRIBUTE6   BOMCOLUMN_ISOTag_
    COMPONENT-ATTRIBUTE7   BOMCOLUMN_SCHClass_150
    WEIGHT  0.0045359702440352
COUPLING
    END-POINT        6168.7971    4322.5674    0.0000    1.0000  TC
    END-POINT        6213.2471    4322.5674    0.0000    1.0000  PL
    SKEY  FEFA
    ITEM-CODE  test-7
    ITEM-DESCRIPTION  DT-4.1.4-1 A, FERRULE
    FABRICATION-ITEM
    PIPING-SPEC  test
    TRACING-SPEC  
    COMPONENT-ATTRIBUTE1   SERVICE_NA
    COMPONENT-ATTRIBUTE2   BOMCOLUMN_Material_
    COMPONENT-ATTRIBUTE3   BOMCOLUMN_Spec_test
    COMPONENT-ATTRIBUTE4   BOMCOLUMN_LoopNumber_
    COMPONENT-ATTRIBUTE5   BOMCOLUMN_Type_
    COMPONENT-ATTRIBUTE6   BOMCOLUMN_ISOTag_
    COMPONENT-ATTRIBUTE7   BOMCOLUMN_SCHClass_
MATERIALS
ITEM-CODE  test-1030
    DESCRIPTION  TRI CLAMP
    Schedule  
    PressureClass  
    Material  
    Spec  test
    LoopNumber  
    Type  
    ISOTag  
ITEM-CODE  test-666
    DESCRIPTION  GASKET - Generic
    Schedule  
    PressureClass  150
    Material  
    Spec  test
    LoopNumber  
    Type  
    ISOTag  
ITEM-CODE  test-7
    DESCRIPTION  DT-4.1.4-1 A, FERRULE
    Schedule  
    PressureClass  
    Material  
    Spec  test
    LoopNumber  
    Type  
    ISOTag 

 

 

Message 5 of 7
lten
in reply to: bdowd

Hi .. I have the same issue running Plant 2018.1.2  update. Seems that Autodesk still can not figure this out - or the answer is to be found in another thread.

Message 6 of 7
lten
in reply to: lten

Okay - figured out we have two Clamps in the same Pipe Spec - and some how the catalog seems to be confused over the sizes - specially when Long Description Size are the same..

To solve it quickly in 3D model, choose the clamp itself - by holding the CTRL button in keyboard and then click on the clamp.

Now you can choose between more clamps - choose the right one - and now you should have the right size in the BOM list in the isometric.

 

Message 7 of 7
placek
in reply to: medvegab

I'm reporting same behavior in Plant3D 2023.

My solution:

Add into the iso.atr next atrribute:

BOM-ATTRIBUTES

EngineeringItems.Size

 

Find in the isoconfig.xml in tablescheme BOM next row:

<ColumnMapping HeaderName="Size" HeaderRefName="Size" Label="ND" />

replace by

<ColumnMapping HeaderName="Size" HeaderRefName="EngineeringItems.Size" Label="ND" />

 

It works for me.

Bye

Tomas

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