Rotate Structural Members

[Anonymous]

This is a bug that I found since I started to use Plant 3D 2018.

When inserting a structural member and is rotated along the length axis using the rotate command and then use a grip on the steel section to stretch it out and it will flip back to the default rotation position from when it was inserted.

This has a work-around by using the edit member to change the rotation.

Using rotate has worked in all versions prior from 2010 to 2017 and is a far quicker easier way of rotating a structural member, especially given there is no preview in the member editor.

I haven't used 2019 to see if this problem still exists. 

I have all the latest updates installed for 2018. A hotfix or patch would be great to fix this.

Thanks,

Scott

[Anonymous]

This is a bug that I found since I started to use Plant 3D 2018.

When inserting a structural member and is rotated along the length axis using the rotate command and then use a grip on the steel section to stretch it out and it will flip back to the default rotation position from when it was inserted.

This has a work-around by using the edit member to change the rotation.

Using rotate has worked in all versions prior from 2010 to 2017 and is a far quicker easier way of rotating a structural member, especially given there is no preview in the member editor.

I haven't used 2019 to see if this problem still exists. 

I have all the latest updates installed for 2018. A hotfix or patch would be great to fix this.

Thanks,

Scott

[h_eger]

Dear @Anonymous,

unfortunately, the rotate command was not the right way to change the position of steel profiles. It did work but when exporting to SDNF or SMLX the wrong position was passed. Therefore, this bug has been fixed and the posture change works only through the Steelstructure commands and no longer via ROTATE or 3D Rotate.

[h_eger]

Dear @Anonymous,

unfortunately, the rotate command was not the right way to change the position of steel profiles. It did work but when exporting to SDNF or SMLX the wrong position was passed. Therefore, this bug has been fixed and the posture change works only through the Steelstructure commands and no longer via ROTATE or 3D Rotate.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for your explanation. 

In its current state it is far more dangerous for the incorrect orientation to be shown. If the user rotates the member using rotate it looks fine until it is refreshed, which then makes it flip back.

Please follow below of what I just tried, which gave me a not expected result.

-Insert a member

-Rotate it using rotate command

-Stretch the member using the grip (it should flip back to it original orientation)

-Rotate it again

-Edit the member, then press ok.

-Stretch the member again (nothing happens other than the stretch, the orientation stays as it was)

It looks like the rotation value gets applied to the properties of this member but for some reason isn't applied properly.

This still needs to be fixed as it just seems like the database isn't updated but the 3d object is and the database then gets updated once refreshed with the edit member window.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for your explanation. 

In its current state it is far more dangerous for the incorrect orientation to be shown. If the user rotates the member using rotate it looks fine until it is refreshed, which then makes it flip back.

Please follow below of what I just tried, which gave me a not expected result.

-Insert a member

-Rotate it using rotate command

-Stretch the member using the grip (it should flip back to it original orientation)

-Rotate it again

-Edit the member, then press ok.

-Stretch the member again (nothing happens other than the stretch, the orientation stays as it was)

It looks like the rotation value gets applied to the properties of this member but for some reason isn't applied properly.

This still needs to be fixed as it just seems like the database isn't updated but the 3d object is and the database then gets updated once refreshed with the edit member window.

[h_eger]

Dear @Anonymous,

rotate is no longer supported in Plant 3D from version 2018 for the editing of Stell structures!

[h_eger]

Dear @Anonymous,

rotate is no longer supported in Plant 3D from version 2018 for the editing of Stell structures!

[Anonymous]

I would like to hear from Autodesk as I think this is clearly bad programming with it updating only one area of the member. Following the steps in my previous response clearly shows there is something that doesn't work.

The fact that I can rotate it and then edit the member and click ok to lock that rotation in says there needs to be an automatic member sync to the database before the export happens. 

There is always a way to allow rotate to work. With it only half working is dangerous especially given everyone using this product since 2010 would have been using the normal rotate command not the hidden poor UI version in the member editor. Telling everyone not to use rotate only on structural members is stupid.

[Anonymous]

I would like to hear from Autodesk as I think this is clearly bad programming with it updating only one area of the member. Following the steps in my previous response clearly shows there is something that doesn't work.

The fact that I can rotate it and then edit the member and click ok to lock that rotation in says there needs to be an automatic member sync to the database before the export happens. 

There is always a way to allow rotate to work. With it only half working is dangerous especially given everyone using this product since 2010 would have been using the normal rotate command not the hidden poor UI version in the member editor. Telling everyone not to use rotate only on structural members is stupid.