Isometrics- 3 Way Safety Selector Valve (Multiport Valve)

Isometrics- 3 Way Safety Selector Valve (Multiport Valve)

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Isometrics- 3 Way Safety Selector Valve (Multiport Valve)

SteveHartley
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Hi All, 

 

I am needing some advice on this type of valve below for Isometrics generation. 

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So far, the only way I have managed to get this remotely close to being acceptable is to set it up as a multiway valve.

However, the isos are turning out as below image A, the bottom port is also facing up where it should be down.

It would be much appreciated if someone would know how to get the port facing down in the correct direction.

 

Image A- Not OK

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Image B - Preferred

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Basic 3D model of the valve Block connected to the pipe below

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Port creation sequence when using PLANPARTCONVERT

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Catalogue Details:

 

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IsoSkeyAcadBlockMap.xml Details: 

I duplicated the existing MPV and renamed some items so I could get the ports to look like threaded / socket ends. 

 

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MPVBody1 Block

I created this so the ends appeared threaded/socketed on the isos

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MPVSpindle1 Block 

I added a 3rd port point to see if it would make a difference, I tested without the 3rd port and had similar results. 

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Cheers

 

 

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agedzevicius
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Hi Steve,

Unfortunately Autodesk have not solved the issue for multiport valves. 
If you use the forum's search function, you can find the same issue being reported as early as 2016..

We're on our own 😅

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SteveHartley
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Bummer, the only solution I could find that worked is to use the parametric shape valves available in the system and customize it to the dimensions of the valve, this is as good as it gets if you need iso generation. 

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agedzevicius
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Can you attach a snip of the valve in model vs iso sheet? 
Curious to see if i could make it work using parametrics.
I currently have a 5 port clean pharma valve, and i'll have to just not iso it out, and use continuation flags, and attach cutsheets of the valve with...

Not good enough Autodesk

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SteveHartley
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Hi there, 

 

I managed to make it work with the parametric shapes provided in the catalog, so it works well on the isos now, just looks balls in the model but doesn't matter too much. See below settings for making it work.

Cheers 

 

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joakim_lindh
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Hello everyone. I had a go at this today to help a customer get sorted. This is what I did to make it work.

  1. Create a block-based Plant 3D part.
  2. Make sure the block is laying flat with the actuator facing +Y (EXTREMELY IMPORTANT).
  3. Also, make sure to have the basepoint of your block somewhere inside the block between Port 1 and Port 2.
  4. PLANTPARTCONVERT the block and place the first port at the TOP closest to the actuator. When adding the actuator to the component in Spec Editor, this is where the block will be placed later.
  5. Create a DUMMY actuator so small that it does not show up outside your block. In my demo here, it's larger just to show you that it's inside the valve.
  6. EXTREMELY important that the Actuator is placed at the 0,0,0 position and that the top of the actuator is facing +Y.
  7. PLANTPARTCONVERT the actuator but don’t add any ports to it.
  8. Create the object in SPECeditor. Make sure to select Valve Body when you create the valve; otherwise, you can't assign an actuator to it.
  9. SKEY = MD??, TYPE = VALVE-MULTIWAY.
  10. Add the actuator to the component in Spec Editor.
  11. Add the valve to a spec.
  12. Restart Plant 3D to make sure the block is recognized by the system if you get the warning 'Can’t find symbol for specified part.'

 

One last thing, Dont forget to add the actuator in the "IsoSkeyAcadBlockMap.xml"

<SkeyMapMPV SKEY="MD??" AcadBlockBody="MPVBody" AcadBlockSpindle="MPVSpindle" AcadBlockActuator ="MPVActuator"/>

 

 

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SteveHartley
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@joakim_lindh , youre out there doing gods work! 

 

Thanks so much for spending the time and testing this out, it will be great to use  the block visuals again 🙂 

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joakim_lindh
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Dont forget to accept the post as "Accepted Solution" if it works. that will den show everyone else that we have fixed it 🙂

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agedzevicius
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I've yet to test this out myself for isometrics, but I'm glad there's gents like you guys trying to find solutions 😅