Frozen object appearing in ortho view

[Anonymous]

In AutoCAD Plant 3D 2016, I have a general arrangement with xrefs loaded in and a 3D solid shape on the "defpoints" layer that is frozen. When I produce an orthoview of the GA, the 3D solid object shows up. And if I turned off the layer in the viewport, the objects that were behind are still cut and gaps appears in my view.

Here's some screenshots

[Attila.Vallyon]

Hi Dany!

In addition to your problem here you can see more issues:

http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-plant-3d-general/p3d-2017-update-ortho-view-with-a-filtered-mo...

But in your case if you just unload the x-ref those objects will disappear.

[Anonymous]

Unfortunately, these elements are directly in the file I'm creating the ortho views, they are not imbeded in an other Xref.

[Attila.Vallyon]

Well than you have exactly the same issue what I am struggling with!

[Anonymous]

While we're at it, I have a related issue. In my global GA, I loaded an xref which contain all the structural xrefs as well as the xref containing the concrete. The concrete xref contains AutoCAD 3D solid shapes on a layer named "00-Concrete". All xrefs loaded in a drawing are put on the layer "00-Xref".

Now when I create my ortho view, everiting shows up except for my concrete.

Would you have any idea why it's not showing up?

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Dany Béland

[Anonymous]

... Also, I just don't know why, but the model that appears when creating or editing an ortho view (in the Orthographic View Selection drawing) is not exactly the same as the original model. Some xref are not loaded and should be, some layers are thawed and should be frozen, etc.

[Anonymous]

I found this while searching the forum for a simliar problem, have you made any progess in fixing these issues?

[Anonymous]

I got this answer from Autodesk

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Hi Dany, I visited with this issue to our Plant 3D development team and they have recognized this is an issue. Currently they are investigating the issue and will be working to see how to address the ortho updating correctly with the frozen objects in a update or of future product release. I did find a workaround that you might want to try if you encounter this issue again. If you find the view will not get rid of the frozen lines by updating the view, try to edit view instead. I was able to just alter the size of the ortho cube slightly and this refreshed the view to remove the frozen lines. This should work for you too.

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It should be fixed in an upcoming product, but you can still try to used the workaround in the mean time.

I hope this will help you

[MKKL]

I have the same problem. P3D is not consistent when generating ortho views, sometimes layers that are frozen are still displayed when the ortho view is generated. As a professional in the engineering business, I find it appalling that such a defect in the program is allowed to go forward without an IMMEDIATE fix. How am I supposed to have confidence that the drawings I am responsible for, and that are part of our legally binding submittal packages actually show/not show what is intended? The answer is I do not. I need a program that will ALWAYS give the same output when identical settings are applied, not one that sometimes will and sometimes will not. Shame on you autodesk. 

P3D 2020

Windows 10 64 bit

32GB RAM

[gennaro]

Hello

I discovered that all frozen layers disappear by editing the view "plantorthoedit" and then re-adjusting the view cube. When you select OK the ortho view updates and the view shifts slightly to your new viewcube size. Just move the view to your dimensions and annotation, but all the frozen layers should disappear.

[Russell_Collins]

For what it's worth I was having the same issue and found that it was due to having the model file open while accessing the ortho-view. The model had been saved with the layer frozen and that's how I wanted it in the orthographic, however it would regenerate the view with the layer showing no matter what I did. I then realised that I'd unfrozen it in the read-only, unsaved, open model file. After I shut the model file I had no more issues. It may because the native-state of the layering was confused? Not sure exactly how the ortho generator runs when "querying" drawings, but I'd guess based on this observation if they're open it looks at that instance, not the most recent saved state.

[orlando_gonzalez86L6N]

Thanks for that input. worked