Existing components will not pass through when using Spool Format

Existing components will not pass through when using Spool Format

Dadspackard
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Existing components will not pass through when using Spool Format

Dadspackard
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When generating an Isometric and have it set to spool format existing components (valves) they will not pass through and causes the spool to create multiple sheets.

 

The bolts and valves are set to existing because as you know they will not show in the BOM.

Shop here just needs the pipe, flanges, etc to show but still needs the valves shown in the Spool

 

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Spool format settingSpool format setting

spool error messagespool error message

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Set to Non spool formatSet to Non spool format

 Valves set to new- spool formatValves set to new- spool format

 

 

This might have been asked once before. Instead of running by line number in this dialog why cant we run by SPOOL-NUMBER when set to spool forma?

 

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Tom
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Scott.Hallmark
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In my experience, a spool is the fabricated (welded) pieces that are assembled in the field to other spools with bolts or other fastener types.  There typically should not be bolted items together in one spool.  That may just be due to the industries I have worked in but that has generally been the standard.  Bolted valves and other bolted inline assets are not shown in spool drawings.  A standard iso drawing theme should work fine with the "existing" items showing up with hidden lines in the dwg.  They do however show up in the BOM also I would think you could modify the ISOCONFIG.XML to filter it out.  Looking into that possibility now.

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Dadspackard
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Hi Scott,

 

Thanks for your reply. I agree in someway or another with your response.

 

The company I work now fabricates the pipe and does the installs. The majority of the work here is on the commercial side (High-rises, condos etc.). The designers will sit down with the fitter and go over the model breaking it down to manageable and sizeable spools (no more then 20' in length or width). On occasions the spool can be larger.

The fitter would like to see all the components on the spool drawing. Only caveat they dont need to see valves, bolts, gaskets  etc. in the BOM.

 

Yes a standard Iso Theme will show the existing fittings as dashed and will NOT show in the BOM.

 

I am close to getting a good Isostyle set up (non spool format) but am having issues. I assigned sections of PIPE spools numbers. Run Production ISO - BY LINENUMBER but on some lines I receive an error.

See the attached IsoCreationLog.txt that shows the error.

 

This is the drawing split property setting

split drawing propertysplit drawing property

 

I can select a spool and run a quick Iso and it will produce an spool dwg.

If I select the entire line number in the same matter I receive the error (as noted in the attached IsoCreationLog.txt)

selection by spool number.jpg

 

The IsoCreationLog.txt shows 5 lines being processes (which match the number of spools that are part of the attached L81-HWS-8-CS-BP_DISCHARGE pipe run). But fails to produce the ISOMETRIC/Spool drawings.

 

On some pipe runs I was able to trace it down if the spool ended at an elbow. If a spool can't end at an elbow then what is confusing they run fine for QUICK Isos?

 

I have attached the ISOCONFIG.xml and also the PCF of the above pipe run.

 

Hope this sums it up and is clear on what we are trying to achieve.

 

I have tried Start point and break points and those are hit and miss also to produce Iso.

 

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Tom
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