Weird scaling problem when saving in 2023 version

[andrea.grillo]

Hello there,

I am having a weird problem when saving projects I' working on.

Sometimes some objects in the drawing will get extremely big after saving, ruining my whole work and forcing me to do it all over again. I wasn't able to consistently reproduce the issue, since it happens only some of the times I save.

As anyone of you ever encountered this problem? Does anyone know what could be the cause and how to solve it?

This is Autocad LT 2023.

I've added two screenshoot to show the problem: The first one is the plan on wich I had placed the objects. The secon one is how the objexcts gets bigger after a save (you can barely see the original plan near the origin, very small).

Thanks in advance to anyone able to shed some light on this.

[cadffm · Accepted solution]

>>"Sometimes some objects in the drawing will get extremely big after saving"

Sorry, but I can not see the "big objects" in your screenshot 01!

All I see are big objects which can have the same size at the time of 01.jpg.

(think about, We can not zoom and check your drawing content in a simple screenshot)

Or are noth screenshot made "after re open the file"?

In this case: Sorry, I expected to see "before" and "after",

but in your "View from top" I don't expect people in the side view and no cars in the front view,
hence my confusion (I'm missing the "before" picture.)

Please check your file format: Are you using dwg2018 Format? If not: Which one?

Error in the database? Copy your file as backup and

Check the file: Open the file by RECOVER command

and run "AUDIT yes", save.

Error detected? [F2]

Share your file (the original one you saved while all looked well and looks odd by re-open).

[andrea.grillo]

Yes, I am using dwg2018 as a file format.

The screenshoot were uploaded in the wrong order.
01.jpg is the drawing how it should be scaled and look like. 02.jpg is how some objects gets bigger after a save. In the original drawing they should be very small, in fact you can't even see them in that screenshoot, but are placed inside some of the parking spots.
As I said, it's not a recurring problem, but happens randomically after a save.
Not when reopeing the file, but just by pressing "save".

The objects that gets bigger are blocks. And not all of them shows this behavior.
I'll try make a backup of the file and perform the "recover" function, and I'll let you know if the problem stops.

Being it a work file for a professional studio, I'm not at a freedom to share it on the internet, I'm afraid.

[cadffm]

>>" happens randomically after a save. Not when reopeing the file, but just by pressing "save"."

Wow, never heard about such an issue before.

>>"2023 version"

You talking about AutoCAD LT 2023 ?

In this case I never heard about it and I can't imagine what it is.

My only thought is: corrupted file (whatever that means).

Are the block set to ANNOTATION = Yes ?

[pendean]

Greetings @andrea.grillo 

I am confused on how your two screenshots are even the same file, let alone how simply saving the file creates the one on the right, can you explain that? I don't even see a car or people in the plan image, how are those even connected?

I wonder if you just need to fix your file with the DWGCONVERT tool after using RECOVER or AUDIT on it.

Can you share this DWG file here?

[andrea.grillo]

I'll check and come back to you ASAP.

I've also never encountered a similar problem before. Very odd.

[andrea.grillo]

Believe me, I am as confused as you.

The plan you see on the left is very small in the right screenshoot, closer to the origin.
Those symbols are supposed to be very small, inside the parking spots.

I've tried using recover and audit, and I'll let you know if the problem has resolved itself.

Unfortunately, as alredy stated before, it's a work file for a professional studio, I'm not at a freedom to share it on the internet.

[cadffm]

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@andrea.grillo  schrieb:
The plan you see on the left is very small in the right screenshoot, closer to the origin.
Those symbols are supposed to be very small, inside the parking spots.
Post a screenshot of this modelspace while it "looks good", this can easily understand by everyone-
your first 2 pictures are "after" and the new screenshot showing "before".


>>"I've tried using recover and audit, and I'll let you know if the problem has resolved itself."
If you working with dwg-XRefs, you should do this step with all involved file at the same time,
start with the Xrefs, as last file your master.dwg

Unfortunately, as alredy stated before, it's a work file for a professional studio, I'm not at a freedom to share it on the internet.

We don't need this useless drawing (useless for us), create a copy and delete&purge what you think it could be a problem to post it in public.

Keep some simple parts like the parking slot boundary + some of the BIG objects.

Question: It happen multiple times....and is it always the same objects?
The car, for example, you will have had in the file for a while:
When the problem occurs, is the car always that big, or are the objects always very different?

Or send it non public via Mail - if this is more okay 😉 (<- offer for you)

Or start support case and choose the option "ask an Expert" or something like that.

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[andrea.grillo]

I've heavily cleaned up the project file to be hard to identify a location.

I was actually working with xref inside the main DWG but, after the first time the problem appeared, I decided to move them to a different file and work on them separately. The issue remained even in the new files.

You can clearly see the objects that gets big; the rokcs in the lawns and the electric cars charging stations in the plan and, on the right of the model, you can see a section with the car and pedestrian objects that get big.

I've seen, also, other objects getting bigger so yes, it's different objects every time the issue present itself.

I've alredy performed the RECOVER and AUDIT commands on this file before cleaning it up for posting.

Unfortunately I don't have a copy of the file that was saved after the problem appeared. If it happens again, I'll try to keep it around to post here.

[pendean]

@andrea.grillo Thanks for the file: I can open, qsave and close your file (and AutoCAD 2023.1.2) a half dozen times and this display never changes for me 

What else do you do that I may not be doing?

What add-ons if any are you running?

I am curious why a site-plan / elevation are being drawn in mm, but that's another story I'm sure 😉

[andrea.grillo]

I haven't encountered the issue since yesterday. I've myself saved the TEST file multiple time today.
I'll also have to wait for a colleague of mine, since now she is working mainly on this file and has been encountering the issue for three days. Today has yet to happen once.

Maybe the combo of RECOVER and AUDIT commands solved it?

I don't have any addons running, neither my colleagues, and the original file was not made by me or my studio. It's a plan from a customer that needs to be modified, so it's using the same unit it came with.

Don't ask me why, customers are customers.

I'll monitor the situation on the drawing more in the next few hours day and, if the issue doesn't show up again, I think I can mark the "RECOVER and AUDIT commands combo" as the solution.