AutoCAD LT 2020 Scaling new block insert

[Anonymous]

Hi

I am used to inserting a block from adad R14 version  i.e insert tab - block and once selected gave me the option of altering the x-y dimensions before inserting.

I am now using 2020 with the new block pallet.

When I highlight a block and untick the insertion scale box or even the angle box for that matter and inputting my x -y dimensions the block still insert as original size.

I can alter the block once inserted using the properties command but will not work on the new block pallet.

I have tried all various options on the insertion section without success.

What am i doing wrong/

Thanks

Ken

[pendean]

>>>...and untick the insertion scale box ...<<<

You TICK / CHECK the box if you want to get that prompt is perhaps where you are getting stuck I suspect. Hover over them and see the pop-up explanation (or did you turn that off to "speed up").

HTH

[steven-g]

Did you choose the "scale" option in the drop down box (not uniform scale that is default) and untick the box to the left, plus of course the block has to be have been created with the option to be not scaled uniformly.

[natasha.l]

Hello @Anonymous, 

I believe what you mean is that in older versions when inserting a block you could chose to insert & scale the block at the same time. 

The "Recent Block..." palettes dialog window offers the "Scale" option but does not function in this same way. Please verify that this is what you are referring too. If so, please submit your feedback with the AutoCAD Customer Council. 

Please "Accept Solution" if a reply or replies have helped resolve the issue or answered your question, to help others in the community.

[Anonymous]

Thank you both for the responses.
I have tried everything as suggested before posting on the forum.
To be clear, if I have a shower tray block at 1000mm square , highlight it and don’t put a scale in the insertion box below, when I drag it on to the drawing I get exactly that 1000mm x 1000mm.
Once in the drawing I can then right click and alter any side by means of the option panel which works so I could make it 1500mm x 1000mm.

If I highlight the tray on the pallet then input 1.5 in the x panel and leave the y alone, then drag onto the drawing I still only get 1000 x 1000. In other words the insertion option does not work.
Ken

[cadffm]

Share the source file, we like to test it on our side.

[Anonymous]

Hi,
Would love to but how do I do that.
Although I have used Cad for many years I tend to keep to the basics so don’t venture into technical issues.
Thanks
Ken

[Anonymous]

Thank you for the video, but it still does not show the scaling process. 

What ever i do it will not scale within the insertion boxes so i have come to the conclusion it will never work.

I will have to scale once in the drawing by using properties.

Thanks for your time.

ken

[natasha.l]

Hello @Anonymous, 

Sorry for the confusion, I was simply agreeing with you. When "Scale" is checked it does not function & allow a user to scale during insertion. If you'd like, please submit your request to the AutoCAD Customer Council to provide this feedback to development. 

Please "Accept Solution" if a reply or replies have helped resolve the issue or answered your question, to help others in the community.

[steven-g]

If you can attach a drawing with this block, just click on the paperclip icon below the area where you type your replies "Attachments" and then find the file in the file explorer that opens. A screenshot of the insert dialogue would help as well, the same dialogue I showed in post 3 above. You do have to set the scale in that dialogue before you insert a block, with the new insert you don't get the option to scale whilst  you are actually inserting the block, if you want that then use 'classicinsert'.

[Anonymous]

Hi,

Hopefully i have attached a small drw with the block.

It seems to be whatever I input in the scale tabs makes no difference, seems rather pointless having the insertion box underneath.  Nothing such as rotational angle etc works ticked or not ticked.

I know the block (for instance the shower tray) is drawn full size at 1m square .

If i want to change it to 800mm x 1400mm i have to insert and then right click on properties and alter it from there.

I would have thought i could have done that by using the insertion tabs.

ken

[Anonymous · Accepted solution]

Hi All,

I have finally worked this out.

If i input a scale or angle in the insertion options and just drag a block into the drw it will not work.  I have just discovered you just click the screen where you want the block, not drag in.  It then adjusts accordingly.

Thanks for all your time on this.

Ken

[MarkGunnAutodesk]

Thanks for coming back and telling us how you got it working k.read2.

I'm going to make a small edit to your post title to include the product and version, so other customers can find this more easily. 

[steven-g]

Great to hear you got it working, sometimes it is just a small difference in how you use the command, (click or drag), but I have to say both methods work for me. Though it could also be whether you enter a new scale value in one of the boxes and physically press enter to confirm the change, before starting to place the block. Still nice to hear it is working as advertised😁