AUTOCAD LT 2017 F8 Ortho Freeze

[adminjosh]

I just installed AUTOCAD LT 2017 on my

Surface Book Windows 10 Pro

i7-6600U CPU @ 2.60GHz 6.81 GHz

16.0 GB

64 Bit

I am having issues with the F8 Command (Ortho) freezing or taking along time to respond (60 plus seconds). If I use the ortho icon in the bottom tool bar it responds instantly with no lag. Please help I use this key 5-10 per min or at least I use to...

[pattim]

It's just me. No server, just my laptop. I store the files on D:. When I'm done working on a project, I take it off the computer and put it on a backup removable hard drive. I'm using Windows 10.

Move, Copy....all the same. Freezes. I have to click somewhere else on the screen to get it to unfreeze. Same problem with ESC. To get out of a command gets hung up. I've gotten around all that when I turned off the hardware acceleration. I bought a new computer to make things better. This is like walking back in time 10 years.



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[gouveianuno]

But It should work in all those environments anyway. It shouldn't matter if it is a lptop a desktop saving over the network or in your SDD drive, or what king of shoes you are wearing. It's suposed to work,  but people are having a hard time with this issue for years...its really strange that there's not fix for this.

[pendean]

Good to know: that matches my laptop and my home setup and I'm not seeing this (not MSI though).

Is 😧 drive also SSD? Or somethng faster than 5400rpm?
If you move the file to the C: drive, restart LT2017, and try it, does it still act slow?

[gouveianuno]

We tried moving the file to a local drive (it was in a network drive) and the problem is still there.

It doen'st happen with all drawings, (luckily); we'd say around 5 to10% of the drawings tested. The freeze persists in the same drawings no matter what we do, including saving as DXF, previous DWG versions...And we are not considering wblock (as it brings other problems). There's not apparent similarities between these drawings... it's just frustrating.

Commands that, so far, trigger this: move, copy, explode.

[pendean]

LT updates are here https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad-lt/downloads

[alpaltinok]

Do you have blocks from third party applications / programs? Try exploding them all the way to basic shapes (lines, circles, etc.).

[gouveianuno]

That's not really a solution as we are neither going to explode block by block nor explode them all at once. The drawing would become unseless as we do relly on blocks to optimise our workflow. That spretty much Autodesks suggestion with the use of wblock or exploding. 

[betazero]

Oh man this saved me ! Thanks!!

[Scottu2]

I had this problem too. About 2 weeks i tried to retrain myself to use the ortho icon in the tray, but its just faster to press F8. 

I believe it has something to do with detecting the Touch Screen mode.  I the autocad ribbon-home you will the the touch icon at the right side clue 1.  In Excel the Touch icon at the upper left clue 2.  My solution (workaround) is to Disable the Touch screen driver in the Device Manager - HID - Touch screen.

See attached image.

I hope this works for you.

[Scottu2]

Please discard my previous post.  I does not work.

[Scottu2]

I found that an application called Splashtop was causing the F8 Ortho Freeze problem, Autocad windows would lose focus.  I tested Autocad with tempoverrides=0 cad works normally, and tested with tempoverrides=1 cad freezes.  Set tempoverrides=1 and close Autocad.

Go to the Device Manager and expand the HID (human interface device) group.

DISABLE Splashtop Virtual (R-Click)

Notice the HID Touch Screen also disappears.

Remember to restart the Autocad session for this to work.

This works for me.

[doan.vanthai]

It work perfectly

[gouveianuno]

In our case, we do not have a touch screen and therefore no HDI reference in the device manager. The problem is still here and waiting for Autodesks effective response.

[mab.doom47]

thank you son much..., for your tip...

[A7medZaki]

thanks problem solved

[Scottu2]

Hi guys,

Thanks for the feedback.

As an update, my Win10 did an update and the problem came back, even with Splashtop still disabled.

I set the TEMPOVERRIDES = 0 (per Pendean's original post) and finished my drawings.

Enabled Splashtop, Reboot, then disabled.

[Speaks66]

Thank you that worked great! Setting the overrides to 0 solves a very frustrating problem....

[maic_bigfoot]

WORKED PERFECTLY, GENIUS IT WAS A STRUGGLE IN FACT.

[sidiq123]

thanks sir 

[nigel.stutt]

I am using Autocad LT 2016 on a desktop machine (not laptop). Windows made a new large Win 10 update this week and since then using the F8 and F9 keys whilst in the middle of a command (to turn on/off ortho for example) has been freezing my Autocad for several minutes, more recently ending with a crash to desktop.

Tempoverrides to 0 seems to have stopped it happening for the moment (it seems).

I dont have Splashtop on this computer.

Any news on this from other users/official Autocad support about getting it fixed permanently?