Wipeout frame still visible

[joe_kohli]

I created a "wipeout" pline frame and built it into my block. In the current drawing that I created the block, it works just fine. Place it on a line and it "masks" the line. If I copy and paste it into another new drawing the wipeout frame shows up. Why is this happening?

In the drawing where I created the block with wipeout. See how it performs exactly how I want it...

Copy and paste the same block into a new drawing and perform the same task...I can see the wipeout border.

[joe_kohli]

I created a "wipeout" pline frame and built it into my block. In the current drawing that I created the block, it works just fine. Place it on a line and it "masks" the line. If I copy and paste it into another new drawing the wipeout frame shows up. Why is this happening?

In the drawing where I created the block with wipeout. See how it performs exactly how I want it...

Copy and paste the same block into a new drawing and perform the same task...I can see the wipeout border.

[cadffm]

Hi,

- visible or not visible

- plot or not plotable

is a setting in your files!

Look at [F1]

WIPEOUTFRAME 

[cadffm]

Hi,

- visible or not visible

- plot or not plotable

is a setting in your files!

Look at [F1]

WIPEOUTFRAME 

[joe_kohli]

WIPEOUTFRAME = 0

However, why is that setting not carrying over to a new drawing space?

[joe_kohli]

WIPEOUTFRAME = 0

However, why is that setting not carrying over to a new drawing space?

[cadffm]

a file stored setting has nothing to do with the geometric content, 

it is like a property of your file.

If wipeoutframe 0 doesn't work, change it to 1 and then back to zero.

Still a problem? Please share your sample .dwg.

 

[cadffm]

a file stored setting has nothing to do with the geometric content, 

it is like a property of your file.

If wipeoutframe 0 doesn't work, change it to 1 and then back to zero.

Still a problem? Please share your sample .dwg.

 

[joe_kohli]

I see, so I need to have AutoCAD default set to "0". I tried to toggle back and forth between 1 and 0 but with no luck. I attached the block to this reply. I also came across this solution but not entirely sure how to achieve this...

[joe_kohli]

I see, so I need to have AutoCAD default set to "0". I tried to toggle back and forth between 1 and 0 but with no luck. I attached the block to this reply. I also came across this solution but not entirely sure how to achieve this...

[illusionistNUGXG]

The setting with WIPEOUT (or direct the variable WIPEOUTFRAME) can be set in every drawing individually.

(...You change it in your template)

0 = no border

1 = with border

2 = the border is displayed, but not plotted

This variable is saved in every drawing and not in the system / registry.

EDIT: Oh...i'm slow...   =P

"However, why is that setting not carrying over to a new drawing space?"

You are just copy - pasting elements into your other drawing. If this would change some settings at random, it would most times end in chaos.

(like i mentioned before editing) I reccommend to change the setting in your templates.

[illusionistNUGXG]

The setting with WIPEOUT (or direct the variable WIPEOUTFRAME) can be set in every drawing individually.

(...You change it in your template)

0 = no border

1 = with border

2 = the border is displayed, but not plotted

This variable is saved in every drawing and not in the system / registry.

EDIT: Oh...i'm slow...   =P

"However, why is that setting not carrying over to a new drawing space?"

You are just copy - pasting elements into your other drawing. If this would change some settings at random, it would most times end in chaos.

(like i mentioned before editing) I reccommend to change the setting in your templates.

[cadffm]

It is set to 1 in this drawing!

(displayAND plot the frame)

[cadffm]

It is set to 1 in this drawing!

(displayAND plot the frame)

[joe_kohli]

Ya it defaults to 1 in a new drawing. I want it to default to 0 in any new drawing I open. Can that be done? or can I use a LSP file that is embedded into the default AutoCAD system. Something like (setvar'wipeoutframe 0)

[joe_kohli]

Ya it defaults to 1 in a new drawing. I want it to default to 0 in any new drawing I open. Can that be done? or can I use a LSP file that is embedded into the default AutoCAD system. Something like (setvar'wipeoutframe 0)

[cadffm]

>>"Ya it defaults to 1 in a new drawing. I want it to default to 0 in any new drawing I open. Can that be done?"

1. Every NEW FILE or

2. every file you open?

that's not the same..

s1: Change setting in your template file(s).

s2. Use the acaddoc.lsp solution (you read about it)

Open EDITOR / Notepad

copy or write down the line from Kent

save the file as ACADDOC.lsp in your personal folder for Acad support files (if you don't habe one, create one and add the folder to your SupportPaths, Command OPTIONS, Files tab)

[cadffm]

>>"Ya it defaults to 1 in a new drawing. I want it to default to 0 in any new drawing I open. Can that be done?"

1. Every NEW FILE or

2. every file you open?

that's not the same..

s1: Change setting in your template file(s).

s2. Use the acaddoc.lsp solution (you read about it)

Open EDITOR / Notepad

copy or write down the line from Kent

save the file as ACADDOC.lsp in your personal folder for Acad support files (if you don't habe one, create one and add the folder to your SupportPaths, Command OPTIONS, Files tab)

[joe_kohli]

Yes, I want it to default to 0 in every file I open. I will try to import that .lsp file and report back.

[joe_kohli]

Yes, I want it to default to 0 in every file I open. I will try to import that .lsp file and report back.

[pendean]

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@joe_kohli wrote:

Ya it defaults to 1 in a new drawing. I want it to default to 0 in any new drawing I open. Can that be done? or can I use a LSP file that is embedded into the default AutoCAD system. Something like (setvar'wipeoutframe 0)

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Only if you do so deliberately with a startup LISP (you seem to already have the code, it needs to be a .LSP file on your PC in a folder that is part of the AutoCAD search path)) like these many ways

https://www.autodesk.com/support/technical/article/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/Automatically-load... 

and

https://lee-mac.com/autoloading.html

And/or use SYSVARMONITOR command, add that variable to it with your desired default setting, and use that to update before you paste.

[pendean]

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@joe_kohli wrote:

Ya it defaults to 1 in a new drawing. I want it to default to 0 in any new drawing I open. Can that be done? or can I use a LSP file that is embedded into the default AutoCAD system. Something like (setvar'wipeoutframe 0)

---

Only if you do so deliberately with a startup LISP (you seem to already have the code, it needs to be a .LSP file on your PC in a folder that is part of the AutoCAD search path)) like these many ways

https://www.autodesk.com/support/technical/article/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/Automatically-load... 

and

https://lee-mac.com/autoloading.html

And/or use SYSVARMONITOR command, add that variable to it with your desired default setting, and use that to update before you paste.

[joe_kohli · Accepted solution]

Creating a .lsp file named ACADDOC.lsp with a command line value of (setvar 'wipeoutframe 0) and inserting that into the Autocad support file fixed it. It will now default to 0 in EVERY file I open. Perfect!! Thank you for your help.

[joe_kohli · Accepted solution]

Creating a .lsp file named ACADDOC.lsp with a command line value of (setvar 'wipeoutframe 0) and inserting that into the Autocad support file fixed it. It will now default to 0 in EVERY file I open. Perfect!! Thank you for your help.

[cadffm]

Glad to help

>>"It will now default to 0 in EVERY file I open"

It changes the setting in every file you open. Sounds the same, but isn't.

The "default" in helpdoc means: This is default for new files, which are not created by a template file.

One hint for who is not daily working with this kind of customization:

Don't forget this customization, it will help you to find "unusual behavior" in the future, because helpers/supporter are known about standards, not about your own changes to the software.

🙂

[cadffm]

Glad to help

>>"It will now default to 0 in EVERY file I open"

It changes the setting in every file you open. Sounds the same, but isn't.

The "default" in helpdoc means: This is default for new files, which are not created by a template file.

One hint for who is not daily working with this kind of customization:

Don't forget this customization, it will help you to find "unusual behavior" in the future, because helpers/supporter are known about standards, not about your own changes to the software.

🙂