When typing in a table, the first letter is always lowercase

When typing in a table, the first letter is always lowercase

scaglusom
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When typing in a table, the first letter is always lowercase

scaglusom
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I have text in CAD set to always type in all caps even if caps lock isn't on, as I rarely use lowercase in CAD. Usually this works fine, but when adding text to a table cell, the first letter is always lower case and the rest is upper case. Every time I edit a table cell, I need to go back and capitalize the first letter. It's very strange and an annoying time waster. Is there any way to fix this?

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paullimapa
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Must be a limitation of the program you're using to force caps lock

When manually have keyboard set to Caps Lock on keyboard entry in Table cells including first letter is always capitalized. 


Paul Li
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pendean
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@scaglusom you need to turn caps-lock on (on your keyboard) all the time, it's a quirk in Table Cells you cannot fix yet (if ever at this stage with 2024 out). Your ALLCAPS setting in MTEXT has a defect in table cells.

 

 

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zalant
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Older thread here, but I thought I'd chime in a bit on this oddity that occurs when using TEXTALLCAPS. 

 

The behavior happens when you start typing before AutoCAD has switched into the text-editing mode within the cell of the table. When the cell's border is yellow, whatever first character is typed will be put in lowercase.

 

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To avoid this, double-click within the cell and you'll get the I-beam cursor.

 

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At that point, the first character should always appear as uppercase (when TEXTALLCAPS is turned ON).

Oddly, if you don't have TEXTALLCAPS turned ON, but you instead use the keyboard's Caps Lock button, the behavior isn't reproducible. 



Zac Travis
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Kent1Cooper
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@scaglusom wrote:

.... I rarely use lowercase in CAD. ....


Another approach is to use a font in which there are no lower-case characters, i.e. all lower-case content comes out as upper-case, for example the RomansUC font >here<.  It's a modification of AutoCAD's ROMANS font, with the upper-case-equivalent definitions substituted for all the lower-case character definitions.  The same is easily done with any .shx font if the .shp source is available.  I wouldn't know whether it's possible to do the same with .ttf fonts, but there are some that are built the same.  Some on my computer: CASTELLAR, FELIX TITLING, GOUDY STOUT, PERPETUA TITLINT MT, REVIT_HEB_SHX [a .TTF font despite the name].  None of those except the last might be appropriate for most AutoCAD drawings, but the concept is out there -- there may be other good ones available.  And there are some small-caps fonts whose lower-case letters look like the upper-case ones but are shorter, if that would serve someone's purpose.

Kent Cooper, AIA
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pendean
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@zalant wrote:

...Oddly, if you don't have TEXTALLCAPS turned ON, but you instead use the keyboard's Caps Lock button, the behavior isn't reproducible. 


Not quite... your keyboard CAPS LOCK will always type in CAPS regardless of your TEXTALLCAPS settings. Always.

Try it now.

 

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zalant
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@Kent1Cooper The idea of using an all-caps font is gold! I'm going to add that to the article that I wrote for this issue.

 

@pendean Correct. Whether TEXTALLCAPS is ON or OFF, the keyboard's Caps Lock will do its job; I didn't mean to imply otherwise. I was working on the idea that anyone using TEXTALLCAPS in the first place is using that variable because they don't want to use Caps Lock on the keyboard. While having both of them enabled is completely possible, it's also redundant.



Zac Travis
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Jason.Piercey
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An all-caps font would only work if your drawings don't require lowercase characters, That wouldn't work here at all given the amount of structural abbreviations that often require lowercase characters.

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pendean
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@Jason.Piercey wrote:

An all-caps font would only work if your drawings don't require lowercase characters, That wouldn't work here at all given the amount of structural abbreviations that often require lowercase characters.


You can have one font for your TABLESTYLE and another font for your text/mtext/dimstyle/mleaderstyle: the trick is to find matching ones that are not too dramatically different to avoid your content looking like a 'ransom note' 🙂

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Jason.Piercey
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Way too much nonsense to avoid a bug. I don't use table objects anyway as they are too cumbersome in some instances here. I was just pointing out the use of abbreviations may be required. 

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Kent1Cooper
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@Kent1Cooper wrote:
.... the concept is out there -- there may be other good ones available.  ....

Boy, is it ever!  For just one example, a site called fontspace.com has an entire dedicated category for all-caps fonts, with well over 1000 of them.  The vast majority no one would be likely to use in construction/fabrication/shop-type drawings, but you can narrow it down to certain sub-categories [such as only sans-serif varieties].

Kent Cooper, AIA
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