Text outline remains after using hide

Text outline remains after using hide

maksimmaitzhanov
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Text outline remains after using hide

maksimmaitzhanov
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Hello everyone! The next problem is when I use the "hide" command to print to pdf without hidden lines, the text changes and only the outline of this text remains. How can I fix this? I have attached screenshots below.

Well, and if you are not too lazy, maybe you know how to move the callout forward so that when using hidden lines it does not go behind the 3D model, but is in front.

 

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maksimmaitzhanov
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imadHabash
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Hi,

Try to check HIDETEXT system variable.

Imad Habash

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maksimmaitzhanov
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Hi, this doesn't help. Tried it with it on and off, doesn't help.

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paullimapa
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with HIDETEXT OFF, don't use the HIDE command but use VSCURRENT Hidden option

 


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maksimmaitzhanov
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I understand what you mean, but this approach does not suit me for a number of reasons:
1) The problem is not completely fixed, as you can see in the screenshots below, the text is also distorted and not very good.
2) The line thickness is not preserved everywhere in this mode, and this does not seem to be particularly corrected (example of an arc in the screenshots)
3) The centerlines in this mode do not work correctly for some reason.
Well, in general, it is clear that the edges of the model are distorted a little

However, thanks for the help anyway.

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maksimmaitzhanov
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this is the answer for you

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paullimapa
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Then the other option is a bit cumbersome but would give you the result you want.

Go to Layout & create a Vport with the same 3d view you want

Make a duplicate copy of all those Dimensions so you now have a 2nd copy on top of the previous selected Dimensions

Use Chspace command and use the Previous select option & those Dimensions in Model Space would be automatically copied to Paper Space.

Now you can keep the Vport Display at Legacy Hidden for Plotting

Though the Model Space Dimensions would show as Outline when hidden the Paper Space Dimensions will stay filled 


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pendean
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You need to use SHX fonts, not TTF fonts @maksimmaitzhanov 

Oldest known limitation in AutoCAD.

 

There are tips and workarounds, see posts by others.

 

You alone get to decide which works best for you.

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maksimmaitzhanov
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Well, your solution is interesting, but it doesn't suit me. Although I had to manually change the orientation, but that's my problem. There is a problem: The dimension line that should be hidden is not hidden, which is logical, because the "Hide" command is applied to the model, not to the sheet. Do you know how to trim this line?

 

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maksimmaitzhanov
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hmm, got it, so this is an old problem related to ttf fonts. The tips you sent don't help, I used textfill, but it didn't help. I tried to find a shx font alternative to isocpeur, and even found one (they were already in AutoCAD). But then another problem arises related to the fact that I have Russian text, and this font does not work with Russian text. Perhaps you have a solution to this, but I doubt it. I think I will use a combination of your solution for everything that is not related to Russian text, and the solution above for text. Thank you very much.

In general, for other readers, if you do not have a foreign-language text and have the same problem, then just use the font isocp.shx, then the problem will disappear.

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paullimapa
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If you don’t want to see those dimension extensions because they show up in this view then grip them and move them to the position where they disappear. 


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Message 13 of 19

maksimmaitzhanov
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When I try to do anything other than move this line, nothing works and it says that it is not parallel to the coordinate system.

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paullimapa
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try changing your UCS so that it matches with those Dimensions by using the UCS Object option and then select the Dimension.

 


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maksimmaitzhanov
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I don't quite understand what exactly you're suggesting... Are you suggesting that I do this on the sheet itself? AutoCAD doesn't allow this, since the sheet has an exclusively 2D coordinate system.

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maksimmaitzhanov
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Although I said that I decided to combine the two solutions above to solve my problem with the outlines of the text and arrows, however, it did not quite help me. When replacing the font of all the main dimension lines that do not contain text, but only numbers, with a shx font helps get rid of the font outline. And for callouts containing text, in turn, I use the second method in that I create a second layer of these callouts already on the sheet layout itself, and I use the "Hide" command exclusively on the viewport. In this case, the font is filled, BUT this does not apply to the arrows of the dimension lines, and this is a problem for me. Yes, you can bother and somehow miraculously make dimension lines and text of these dimension lines separately and use these two methods for text and for arrows, but it seems to me that this is some kind of nonsense.

 

In fact, I do not understand, am I really one of the few people who need a normal, clear drawing on a sheet for printing? Is there really no normal solution to this problem? Because I have found almost no solutions to this on the Internet, and if I have found them, they are not what I need. If you use the "hidden lines" mode from AutoCAD, you encounter the problem of distortion of lines and the font itself, and if you use the hide command or "Hiding lines from previous versions", you encounter the problem of the font outline, arrows on dimension lines, etc.

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paullimapa
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Change to a different Arrowhead that works like Right angle or Oblique:

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Message 18 of 19

paullimapa
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I created a video demonstrating how to adjust the Dimensions in Model Space through a Viewport in a Paper Space Layout

https://youtu.be/OCz1EXpoc_I


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Message 19 of 19

paullimapa
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You can also create your own custom arrow that's made up of very closely spaced lines so that the HIDE command has no effect on it:

I've attached a custom arrow I made called _FillArrow.dwg

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First Insert _FillArrow.dwg into your 3d model drawing.

Then enter the command DDIM (DIMSTYLE)

Next select the Dimension Style you're using and click on the Modify button

Then click on Symbols and Arrows tab

Under Arrowheads section change First:, Second:, and Leader to User Arrow:

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On the Select Custom Arrow Block window select _FillArrow block you just inserted into your drawing.

Now when you Plot your Vport with the Legacy Hidden option enabled those arrows will look like they are filled.

Below is a screenshot of various Dimensions drawn on my 3d Model with this User Arrow head:

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