Rotate Annotative Text

[rmarkowitz]

Hi - I'm having a lot of trouble getting some annotative block attributes to display properly in my view.

The entire file is rotated 20 degrees in order to align the project North/South, but then the UCS is set back 20 degrees so everthing prints horizontally again. I have a bunch of non-annotative blocks with annotative attributes  inside of them. The attribute labels show up at a 20 degree angle to the drawings, and although the "Match Text Orientation to Layout" button is turned off  (or on, doesn't seem to make a difference), I cannot get the annotative text to rotate to appear horizontal. I can rotate the blocks all I want, and the text just moves around, but does not rotate itself. What am I missing?

Thanks in advance

[miledrizk]

Hi,

When you select the Block, right click and choose Edit Attributes,

Click the Text Options tab, there you have the Rotation parameter

[WarrenGeissler]

If you want the entire block to "Align with view" then you have to specify that in the block creation. All entities including the attributes will align with the view. IF, however, you ONLY want the attributes to align with the view then when you define the attributes, make them a MULTILINE attribute:

Entire block optionMultiline attribute option

[rmarkowitz]

Any value in there immediately reverts to 0 every time.

[rmarkowitz]

I definitely do not want to make the whole block annotative, so definitely the second option.

Is there a way to apply that to existing attributes?

Thank you @WarrenGeissler @miledrizk

[WarrenGeissler]

Well - according to how AutoCAD is SUPPOSED to work I would say YES. You SHOULD edit the block, change the options for your attribute(s) and ATTSYNC the block.

However,

I just did that and it did not work. I can ADD a NEW attribute as a multiline attribute and it WILL work. I've attached a file with an example. The block has 2 attributes. The one on top was changed and ATTSYNC used - and it will NOT align with the view. The one on the bottom was ADDED to the block as a multiline attribute (again with ATTSYNC) and it WILL align.

Hey @john.vellek - I think I've found a product defect here. AutoCAD 2018.1.1 Win 10.

[rmarkowitz]

Soo...I've been struggling with this for literally like 8 months now and I thought it was just me. Boy do I feel dumb. 

I'm trying to use someone else's standard set of blocks but I want to use Autocad intelligently and thusly with annotative text. 

A fix would be swell!

[WarrenGeissler]

Don't beat your head on the desk....let US do that instead, that's what we're here for!

I don't know if there will be a fix as I tried it with 2017 with the same results - but that's why I pinged John Velleck. He's with Autodesk Support and is great with this kind of thing.

[john.vellek]

Hi @rmarkowitz,

Thanks for the invite @WarrenGeissler.  let me see if I can help.  Please send me one of your drawing files that include the block(s) that you want to have the automatic orientation.  I am happy to take a look and see if I can get this to work.

[rmarkowitz]

Here's a file set up...let me know what you find!

[WarrenGeissler]

Also take a look at my file earlier in this thread "Attribute Issue"

[john.vellek]

Hi @rmarkowitz

OK, I have to admit I am confused.  When I open your drawing and rotate your viewport the text stays horizontal which to my understanding is what you are trying to do.

I made a video to show the way this is behaving on my system.  I also typically set the direction for the attribute to Horizontal.

What am I missing - I apologize for not understanding the problem better. Please enlighten me.

@warren.geissler - now your drawing is even more perplexing.  I am not sure why the top attribute isn't working. I need to play with it a bit more.

[miledrizk]

In the Text Style dialog when you check Annotative and Match Text Orientation To Layout,

It will have an effect only on the newly created attributes and, at the same time, changing it back

Won't reverse the behavior of the attributes already created.

And this is the only way i managed to reproduce this behavior you're seeing in your file.

So it's a possibility that those two options where checked when the attribute was created.

Maybe you saw them unchecked, because they were changed back after the attribute creation

[rmarkowitz]

Hi John

@WarrenGeissler's model is exactly the problem I am having.

Any idea what the solution is?

Thanks!

[attila1]

Hey,

I'd like to use the match orientation to layout function for annotative text but would like the text to be at 45 degrees from the horizontal. Is there any way this can be achieved. I have tried all sorts of UCS rotations to get the result I want with no luck. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[pendean]

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@attila1 wrote:

Hey,

I'd like to use the match orientation to layout function for annotative text but would like the text to be at 45 degrees from the horizontal. Is there any way this can be achieved. I have tried all sorts of UCS rotations to get the result I want with no luck. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Annotative TEXT only have this ability, set in STYLE command

[attila1]

Thanks for your reply.
The STYLE command is understood however it has no option to orientate the text at an angle to the layout orientation.
The text will only orientate parallel / horizontal to the page whereas I would like it at 45 degrees to the horizontal for survey purposes.
Anything I'm missing here?
Thanks again.
Attila