problem occurs as project gets more detailed; keeps crashes

problem occurs as project gets more detailed; keeps crashes

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problem occurs as project gets more detailed; keeps crashes

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i am drawing my construction project at AUTOCAD 2019 STUDENT VERSION, homework and whenever  i drag too fast or try to hatch too many things at once or when i try to move something to a far place it crashes, sometimes even crashes when i am not doing anything, but just because there are more than one autocad files are open. 

 

1-i tried audit,purge, regen didnt work.

2-i turn off the graphic acceleracion from the graphicconfic. now it crashes less but still crashes.

3-maybe there is some graphic card disharmony. so i try to change my computers power options because it gets really hot sometime (i dropped to work max. 80% CPU) 

4- i change it high performance for Autocad at Graphic Options

5-also i drop something else to minimum i dont remember what but that affected everything and now it feels like i am using windows-95 (the visuals are like that now...)

 

i want Autocad it to work properly without low graphic quality, because i bought a laptop espetially just to prevent these kind of crashes and this is very disapointing how can i fix this problem (maybe it is not autocad but m laptops problem do you also help that here, my laptop is ASUS ROG Strix with a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 graphic card GDDR5 8 GB 256-bit )

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imadHabash
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Hi,

does this happened only in this CAD drawing or in general ? can we know your CAD dwg file size ? can you share the file with us here for testing ? have you check your AutoCAD updates ?

 

 

Imad Habash

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timothy_crouse
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I can tell you from experience that a GTX-1080 8 MB card would act up at times on my machine, the biggest annoyance was the cursor would disappear requiring a drawing restart to get the cursor to come back. I eventually moved to a P2000 card which has reduced many of the graphic hiccups that would occur during long drafting sessions.

 

As far as the other performance issues I would suggest trying to keep the drawing size below 2meg.  And if you use wipeouts in heavy concentration OR arrays in heavy concentrations you may find freezing them will improve the performance.

 

In an attempt to clean things up I would transfer the objects to a clean drawing:

-Create a clean drawing

-Purge the original drawing

-Copy the model space objects to the new drawing model space

-Right-click the layout tab in the new drawing and select  "From Template " at which point you would browse to the original drawing and select the layouts you want to import.

 

If you find it is still laggy you should then start to remove sections of the drawing to verify when the performance improves to a level you can work with.  At which point you will have to decide on how to handle problematic objects you have isolated.

 

If you have imported objects that were converted STEP files these may require some clean up to reduce their size.  Remember every line end adds weight to the drawing, many converted STEP files from a 3D program bring numerous Tangent lines to illustrate sweeps and rounded corners.   If this is the case you may find you will have better performance if you  "Flatshot"  the 3D object and use that 2D overlay in lieu of the converted 3D object in your drawing.

 

One useful tool to verify what is happening behind the scenes is the windows performance monitor, the big brother of the task monitor, do a search for "performance monitor" in the windows search bar to gain quick access to the tool.

 

Once the tool is active you can add CPU IDLE (which you interpolate in reverse, The higher the number the better), Memory Committed Usage and Page File.

 

If your page file is being accessed you are hitting the resources pretty hard (in a bad way), The CPU Idle should stay at 80 or above and the committed memory should be at 25% (ish), hopefully, no more.  Those values would indicate you have plenty of resource overhead to deal with momentary high resource requirements.

 

If your page file is being accessed take a look at the GPU and see if your workflow is actually accessing the GPU.

 

If your machine is running around those numbers I mentioned and is still laggy after all the cleanup work the video card / driver is the first place I would look to for improvement in, which in your case will be tough if you are using an onboard graphics chip.

 

Hope these Tips Help

Best Regards

Tim C.

 

 

 

 

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Anonymous
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2 file has problem they are about 8mb but after i purge they will drop to 3mb ish. 

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thank you for detailed explanation now i understand a lot more why my files are very heavy, i will pay attention what you said, and i found the performance monitor but because my pc is Turkish i couldnt find CPU İDLE, Memory Committed Usage and Page File. but instead of that now it has very complicated other things that i added wrongly xD so i will give a look to that after my finals are over. thank you very much

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imadHabash
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Hi,

>> 2 file has problem they are about 8mb but after i purge they will drop to 3mb ish

after i open your CAD dwg files i recognize that your issue is NOT a hardware or specs issue !!! 

  • you will always have a problems if you put all of your works in one CAD dwg file ( NOT Recommended ) . 
  • why is your kat planları inceltilmiş_recover_recover_recover_recover_recover_recover_recover.dwg have this long name ( both files )???!!!
  • why is your previous dwg file opend in a 3d mode position ?
  • The other CAD file Uygulama Projesi_Final Teslim_Yelda Duman.dwg has a multi scaled drawings ( Site Plan ,Plans , Elevations , Enlargements and Details ) ???? 

you wondered in your Title that your drawings are crashed BUT believe me I'm NOT !!!! you have to separate all of your works in a different CAD drawings. 

 

All the best for you and have a nice day . 🙂

Imad Habash

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timothy_crouse
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The two drawings definitely have some history behind them.  This can be seen when one compares the size of the file to the size of a single detail, all of which are about the same size.

 

The total file size is close to 3mb but a single detail in a clean file is 100k or less (purged and transferred to a new canvas.  Point being you have a lot of unseen bloat in the files.  They should clean up pretty well for you.

 

Nice work, by the way, I like your attention to detail.

 

Another tip is to try not to use so many pieces of the same hatch pattern.  Meaning if you cannot get the hatch of the area to create in lieu of using small pieces of hatch fill draw a single polygon trace on the hatch layer and hatch that closed polygon.    Again every instance in drawing makes it heavy.

 

Folks also mentioned you should separate your work into separate drawings, albeit useful and helpful for reuse in other projects the number of details you have in each file is about the most I would recommend.  As these are common details one can see why you choose to go this route, just watch the file size on future projects when using this technique.

 

Good luck on your finals 🙂 

 

Good Luck

Best Regards

-Tim C.

 

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