Page Setup import problem

[hencoop]

Hello all,

I've run into this problem often.  Its time to see if there is a permanent solution.

When I import a page setup from a template file which is also used for my page setup overrides, and I assign it to my layout, the plot dialog displays <none> for the current page setup name.  I can add the name that I just imported and it'll warn that the setup name exists. I overwrite it and assign it to the layout and then the plot dialog will show that name.  If I reimport it, the problem starts all over again.

After applying it to the layout it will function properly and show as current in the plot dialog until it is reimported.

We have users working on AutoCAD C3D 2013 and I am on AutoCAD C3D 2014.  If I open the template file and set the page setup name there then I do not have the problem any more but 2013 users do.  If a 2013 user opens the template file and sets the page setup name there then they do not have the problem but 2014 users do.

How can I fix this so that AutoCAD C3D 2013 users and AutoCAD C3D 2014 users can use the same template file without causing this problem for one group or the other?

[pendean]

Are you, the 2014 user, accessing the same exact template file(s) the other 2013 users are? My guess is no but it's not clear from your detailed post.

Are your template files DWT or DWG files?

[hencoop]

I am using AutoCAD C3D 2014.

I only use and refer to .DWT files as template files.

[Anonymous]

You can create custom paper sizes and print margins in template files....
Refer following video..
http://youtu.be/8wGYOToqMrg

[Sandervp]

next I'm having a problem with importing page setups from another drawing/ template also.

I'd created a template with different page setups;

But if I want to import these into another drawing, I'll see this;

I tried to import them using the psetupin command, the import button in the Page Setup dialog box and with the "add" button at the top of the print dialog box.

What am I doing wrong?

[hencoop]

You can only see page setups for Model Space when you are in Model Space and you can only see page setups for Paper Space when you are in Paper Space.  Are the imported page setups for the same space that you are currently in?

[Sandervp]

I want to import those page setups in the paperspace at the moment I'm in the paperspace already. But I do not see them

[jggerth]

Open your source drawing, and verify that the Pagesetups are in Paperspace in that drawing file.

[Sandervp]

Hello JGerth

I've created a source drawing with, for example, 10 layouts. Every layout has got his own pagestup settings.

What am I doing wrong?

(By the way; How can I add this dwg to this post?)

[hencoop]

When you open the Page Setup Manager in the drawing with the 10 layouts what do you see?

This is what it looks like with NO Paper Space page setups.  (a page setup must be specifically named while in a layout.  It is not just a layout).

[Sandervp]

Hello Hencoop,

If you look to my post of 10-29-2015, you'll see this page setup dialog box:

This is what I see if I go to the page setup manager when the current layout is A0++. His own page setup, but also all the other page setups from the other layouts in the drawing

[hencoop]

Sorry, I missed that.

Why do all the page setups begin with an asterisk?

I thought that was reserved for the default pagesetups by Autodesk.

Try naming one without an asterisk and see if you can import it.

[jggerth]

The problem with the asterisiks, is that the pagesetups in your dwt lack unique names.  The *AOH* etc are not named.  All you are seeing is the name of the layout.  There may be unique settings applied to each of those layouts, but the pagesetup itself does not have a name.

To fix, open the pagesetup manager, chose the New... button, Name it AOH, and choose the _existing_ *AOH* as the setup to start with.  Verify that it's what you want, and save it.  Then go onto the next one.  Rinse and repeat.

[hencoop]

Thanks Jim, That's the part I never noticed since I always have a named pagesetup. But, that they need to be named is what I was saying:

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@hencoop wrote:

...(a page setup must be specifically named while in a layout.  It is not just a layout).

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[Sandervp]

Thank you Jim!

That's what I'm looking for.

Sorry Hencoop but I didn't understand your: a page setup must be specifically named while in a layout.  It is not just a layout exactly.

[hencoop]

You may already know this but the pagesetup name can be anything.  It does not need to be the same name as the layout.

Also, only one pagesetup is necessary forteach combination of sheet size, plotter, pens, etc.  Any one pagesetup can be assigned to all layouts if they are will all have the same plot settings.  For this reason I recommend that a page setup name indicate the sheet size and/or some other significant characteristic of the plot settings so it is easily identifiable.

[jggerth]

My PageSetup naming convention in this office is to use the papersize, then the device, optional half-szie flag, and if required, a client ctb.

So, ArchD_2300 would mean a pagesetup intended for my HP T2300 plotter, using company standard CTB.  ArchD_PDF takes the same pagesetup and tweaks it for the DWGtoPDF driver.  ArchD_PDF_NavFac changes the pagesetup to use the Govt supplied NAVFAC.ctb

For 11x17, AnsiB_Canon indicates a hard copy target of the local Canon printer, plotted at 1:1.  

AnsiB_Canon_halfsize would indicate a sheet set up for AnsiD, 22x34, being plotted at a true halfsize.  

Tabloid_Canon_reduced would mean that the output is 11x17, but that the orignal is 24x36 and the output is set to 'fit'.

[hencoop]

I’ve simplified my plotter management (= pagesetup management).

I use just one plotter. TIFF Version 6 (CCITT G4 2D Compression)

I use just one primary paper size, 12,240px x 7920px (ANSI-D unless another sheet size is required)

I use IrfanView to set the image dpi in a post-production operation because there is NO dpi set in the AutoCAD TIFF output.

If I want to produce half-scale I set the dpi to 720. If I want full-scale I set the dpi to 360. (Both full and half scale are made from the exact same TIFF output files.

Finally I use either IrfanView or Adobe Pro to combine the TIFFs into a PDF which I can plot or print to exact scale on any device if the device paper size is large enough. I use ANSI-D because half-scale is exactly 11x17.  Properly set Adobe Reader print settings will produce exact half-scale prints on 11x17 paper.  The half-scale will look exactly like the full scale prints becasue they ARE from exactly the same image.

12,240px x 7920px is actually 34x22 (ANSI-D) @ 360dpi

I use this value because the default resolution of TIFF Version 6 (CCITT G4 2D Compression) is 72dpi and 360dpi is a multiple of 72.

Using multiples of 72 prevents any interpolation of the pixels when a dpi is assigned to the TIFF files. Also, it is a very good resolution to produce simulated grays using only the black and white pixels of the bitonal TIFF image.

Bitonal TIFF images are usually very small and because they are bitonal they are unaffected by any grayscale interpretations.

To keep this from being a multistep process I wrote a simple routine that executes Irfanview as a command-line process from within AutoCAD to accomplish the post processing, create the PDF, and open it in Adobe reader. (Possible thanks to DOSLIB)

I do the same thing using JPG output for full color plots.