MText Not Mirroring Like Other Objects

[carabalda]

Something really baffling just started happening yesterday. I use the Mirror command all day, mirroring objects and text top create drawings of scenery for a TV show I'm working on. As of yesterday, when I mirror text and objects, the objects mirror perfectly on the Mirror Line, as expected, but the text shifts over, NOT mirroring on the Mirror Line with the other objects.

Look at the attached before and after screen shot: the left side shows four things selected to mirror (they are colored red for clarity). There's one piece of center-justified MText selected (the MIRRTEXT variable is set to 0, as always, because I never want the words to read backwards) plus one polyline (the diagonal lines indicating where door is hinged) plus one block (the door handle) plus one dimension. The capture shows me having invoked the Mirror command and ACAD is asking me to "Specify first point of mirror line" and my cursor is selecting the Midpoint of the double door opening: I want to mirror these 4 things on the center of the door opening.

When I specify the second point of the mirror line, 90-degrees straight up, the mirror happens, and the result is what you see on the right side of the screen capture: the polyling, the block and the dimension have mirrored on the mirror line perfectly, as always. But the MText is way off to the viewer's left, NOT mirroring like the other three objects on the specified mirror line. 

I have no idea why this began happening, and I can't get text to mirror properly, as it always did until yesterday morning. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this? It's making me crazy!

[cadffm]

Please Upload the DWG, you can erase all except the MText if you want.

Use ETRANSMIT to zip this dwg incl. all Fonts.

I think there is a Font missing, or a special font, or a format/value informations what makes trouble!

[gotphish001]

I can reproduce the issue. If you use text with a center grip and put spaces before the actual then it counts the spaces for the mirror. It will mirror the text based on where the text grip is. Click on the text. Is the grip in the center of the text or off to one side. If it's center aligned text and the grip is off to the side then there are spaces that are not needed. Remove the spaces and the grip should go back to center of the text and mirror should work correctly. That is at least my guess without a dwg file. If that doesn't fix your issue then upload a dwg so we can test your actually drawing. Pictures are great to illustrate a point or question but are lacking as you can't test them.

[carabalda]

Here's the eTransmit zip file with just this little part of my original drawing. I can't see how it would have something to do with a missing font. The Standard font I use is Arial Narrow, and has been installed and used forever before the problem began yesterday.

Hopefully the zip file will help you figure out the problem. Thank you, Betreff.

[carabalda]

Hi, gotphish001,

I just uploaded the DWG file using eTransmit as requested by the previous responder. As you'll see, the MText is center/center aligned (the grip is in the horizontal and vertical middle of the text). And there are no blank spaces either before or after the text.

It still makes no sense.

[gotphish001 · Accepted solution]

It's not Mtext. It says it's a multileader when selected. When you explode a multileader and then delete the actual leader the text then shows a Mtext when selected. There is no visible leader in your text you are trying to mirror so I'm still figuring out what is going on. I believe that is shows as multileader instead of Mtext is causing the weird mirror though.

[gotphish001]

Your leader style can have many sections. There must be some sections of zero length. I know they are zero length because when I explode the text it goes back to text but when I window select around it then it only shows text and no leaders. Explode the text and it goes from a multileader to Mtext and then it mirrors correctly.

Edit:  I'm not sure why but it changes the alignment to top center from center when you explode it. I'm not sure why it must have something to do with how the multileader is set up, but it can be changed easily if needed. 

Last Edit: If you have a multileader and select it then right click and option remove leader, it still remains a mulitleader object which is what you have. That had to be what happened as I was unable to produce a multileader with a leader of zero length. Fix is the same though. Just explode it to MText.

[cadffm]

Exactly what @gotphish001 wrote.

As a solution for get the mleader (without our prefert way to explode), set the XXXXX to horizontally

XXXXX = I dont know the english word in properties palette

Section TEXT, should sounds like "attach type" ans is set to vertical now. Change to horizont and mirror..

[gotphish001]

The XXXXX cadffmm doesn't know English for is  is "attachment type" in properties. 

[carabalda]

AH HA! Correct. It's not MText, but rather it's a Multileader that's had the leader lines removed with the "Remove Leader" button on the Multileader Toolbar (the MLEADEREDIT command). I use Multileader text like this (without actual leader lines) because it allows me to turn on the "Background Mask" behind the text (which hides objects under the text) and it gives me the option of turning on the "Text Frame" around the Multileader text. I wish there were options for a Background Mask and/or a Text Frame available for MText, as there are available for Multileader text such as this. 

And you're right, if I explode the Multileader, the Multileader text becomes MText (with that center top justification). The MText mirrors properly, while the Multileader (with or without leader lines visible) does not mirror quite as expected. I can live with this. I just have to make sure I'm mirroring MText, not a Multileader.

Thanks everyone for your help and suggestions.

[carabalda]

Thank you, CADffm. I have been told what the issue was (Multileader text vs. MText) and I know how to change the Justification properties as needed.

Much obliged.