Move a Single Vertex of 3D Solid

Move a Single Vertex of 3D Solid

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Move a Single Vertex of 3D Solid

artur.chojnacki
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Greetings,

 

Is there any possibility to move a single vertex on an edge (attached-please-find-image).

 

If yes how?

I am about to close holes in three 3d solid surface to make a one volume solid.

 

Thank you in advance.

PS

I have not found pertinent information on the web or help.3D Solid Vertex.jpg

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imadHabash
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try Ctrl+Select  or Shift+Select mouse button , sorry i'm not infront my pc . 

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artur.chojnacki
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Thank you,

 

Alas nothing seems to work.

However it should be so easy an intuitive.

 

I have attached the file with the solid.

 

I will appreciate any helpful solution.

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j.palmeL29YX
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With SUBOBJSELECTINMODE= you can grab one or more vertices of a solid. But I doubt that you have a solid (a solid doesn't have gaps). And for surfaces this doesn't work.

Post your file please so we can do a closer look.

 

 

 

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@artur.chojnacki wrote:

 

I have attached the file with the solid.

 

 


 

Opening your file I get a warning:

"Non Autodesk DWG. This DWG file was saved by a software application that was not developed or licensed by Autodesk. Autodesk cannot guarantee the application compatibility or integrity of this file."

 

I don't know why the Properties say it would be a solid. It is not. The massprop command tells it has no mass and no other mass properties .

 

And also Solidedit->Check tells : "This object is not a valid ShapeManager solid".

 

In Autocaad you will have no luck to handle this file. Where is ist coming from? Maybe you can export the source in another (better suitable) format?

 

[EDIT]:

You can explode this "solids" to regions. But this regions don't wrap a closed volumen. A lot of information is missing in this file.

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artur.chojnacki
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Nope.

I've tired filter selection vertices - all with no results.

 

The form in the attached file consist of three 3d solid from Rhino. They are to assembled into one 3d Solid volume,

That is why they have to be joined with no gaps.

 

Shall I explode them?

Will it create a lot of surfaces, 3d plane or...?

Is there any solution to get them into one solid?

 

Thank you for taking a look in the file content and your suggestions.

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artur.chojnacki
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Indeed, as mentioned the content comes from rhino.

I've saved it as a dwg file. Will try other format - perhaps fbx.

 

Is there any clever trick to fix it (attached content) within autocad?

Once exploded I've got a lot of REGIONS.

Still no vertices moveable.

 

Here is attached the content exported from rhino with mesh option. Here I can moe vertices.

Not certain if I can snap them to the nearest edge.

Thank you in advance

 

PS

Definitively - I cannot managed to snap the vertex (on  the image above) to the lower, nearest edge of the other surface (in general meaning).

Naither osnap nor 3d osnap works.

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j.palmeL29YX
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The uploaded "AC-Surface Base-EX_05_08A-3dP_03.dwg" (Polygonmesh) is a good startpoint to repair the model.

Theoretical (first read the end) you could do this:

1.) (optional): Move the 4 Polygonmeshes apart by a definded amount to have a better handling.

2.) For each of the meshes do this:

2a.) Explode the Mesh - you will get a lot of 3DFaces.

2b.) If necessary you can grab the endpoint(s) of a 3DFace and drag it to another position (using a suitable osnap). This is what you are looking for.

3. To check if you will get later a valid result:

3a.) Convert all 3DFaces to surfaces (CONVTOSURFACE command).

While testing in ACAD 2020 I got error messages, that some 3DFaces could not be converted (e.g. 

9500 3DFaces should be converted, 200 could not, for any reason). Here you will find holes in the mesh. You have to fill this holes with manually drawn surfaces. 

In ACAD 2021 I did not get such holes (but I didn't test the complete model).

3b.) Next I would (still for each of the meshes) try to union all the surfaces to one surface. While this I also got error messages (modelling operation error). You have to find which surface causes this error, delete it and create a new one.

4.) When all 4 polygonmeshes were successful convertet to 4 surfaces, you can move this surfaces back to their source position an check each edge where one surface touches its neighbor. If you find errors (overlapping, gaps, ...,) you have to repair this too.

5.) If all this is done successful you can combine all surfaces to a solid (convtosolid or sculpt).

 

But I think, you never will reach this point. The given modell includes too much problems (modelling errors, corrupt faces, ...). I can't belive that someone will have so much time and patience and endurance to finish this job.

 

Maybe another applikation is more tolerant and can do this job, In AutoCAD it is theoretical doable, but practical IMO not.

 

sorry, I can not help.

 

Jürgen Palme
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