Log everything that is done in AutoCAD

Log everything that is done in AutoCAD

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Log everything that is done in AutoCAD

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Dear,


I'm a lecturer at a university.

Due to the Corona crisis we are forced to do the testing of AutoCAD remotely.
We are looking for ways to avoid cheating.
We were thinking of the use of log files that hold everything that is done within AutoCAD.
Can anyone give some advice about how to do this or does anyone have other ideas how we can achieve our goal?
All advice is more than welcome.
Thank you very much in advance.

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pendean
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Look up LOGFILEON command in HELP: just realize any user can turn it off too, and can edit it manually if they wanted.

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cadffm
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1. Impossible

2. You are the 10000. who ask this

3. You will find a lot of informations about this (what you can do, what not and why it is so hard or impossible)

 

A logfile, for example, you can copy and edit the way you want, so it is also useless.

What you can do (if you have the knowledge you need for this), you can compare data in detail,

but this is not so easy - it's not a One click check.

 

All what you know after the check is: "Looks like a copy", with my knowledge - i am sure.

But is it enough for you? In theorie it is possible to draw two drawing which are identical,

in practice, however, this is as safe as a DNA test - unlikely, practically not possible.
Is it enough for you to know that for yourself or do you have to be able to prove it?
You cannot prove it, because in theory it is possible to recreate two files and produce the same content.

I don’t want to go into more detail in public, because there are more students reading along like teachers;)

 

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/cad-managers-forum/need-help-preventing-cheating/td-p/1840015
https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/i-teach-cad-how-to-know-if-my-students-do-copy-and-past...
https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/new-high-school-cad-teacher-check-for-plagiarism/td-p/6...
and so on

www.google.com
site:autodesk.com teacher logfile cheat

 

 

Sebastian

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Thank you for your reply. I already thought the same as you have written in your reply but I posted it here anyway just to make sure.

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I am in the same boat and looking for ways to check.  There are a few tell-tale signs in the file properties.  I'm teaching college freshman engineers.  I usually teach upperclassmen mechanical engineering courses but have wanted to get involved in this course because of issues I see regularly with spatial visualization and simple hand-eye-coordination in hand drawing (students' handwriting is bad enough, but ask them to draw a freehand circle or a cube and you will want to cry).  One of my regular classes got canceled due to a scheduling snafu so when asked what I wanted to teach instead, I choose graphic communications.  

 

I only have one section of this class, while the regular instructor has the other five sections.  I'm trying not to rock the boat too much but instead brainstorm to improve the class a bit.    To combat cheating (but also to encourage students to do their own visualization) I'm pushing to create individualized problems, such as:   

- Make a scale drawing of the layout of your dorm room.. (was thinking of asking for an uploaded picture but I'm not sure if that's an invasion of privacy).   

- Draw your desk and/or chair in three views and isometric. Include a picture.

- Draw your coffee cup, especially the handle, accurately. Include a picture.

- Buy a cheap set of Legos, build something, drawing it in three views and isometric.   Include a picture.

- Draw your stapler.  Include a picture.

 

I keep trying to imagine things that everyone has that will be slightly different.  I'm also trying to encourage sketching for planning drawings, so I'm considering asking for scans of the sketches used to prepare for the drawing.  All of these things make it difficult (though not impossible) to cheat.   

 

We're trying to do sketching, hand drafting with tools, AutoCAD and Solidworks this semester. I wish we had two courses instead of just one, but this is what we have right now.   I'm trying to balance the three enough that the students will get "a good start" rather than become masters in the course. 

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