Lines while printing

[JamesPowell7164]

Gentlemen

I am using AutoCAD 2018.1.1

I have recently produced a drawing that looks clean and has no layers turned off nor set not to print. When I produce a pdf again the pdf is clean with no extraneous lines evident.

Hers the rub:

when I print directly to the printer OR print the pdf I have extra lines that appear, i.e. parallel to a line or in some cases where I have made a fillet the actual shape is "closed off".

Does any one have any ideas what is occurring here cos its driving me mad.

Thanks in anticipation.

I cant send a screen shot because it will look normal.

[Alfred.NESWADBA]

Hi,

>> I cant send a screen shot because it will look normal.

So your PDF shows on the display strange lines, but when you send us the PDF the content is OK? ... in that case you have troubles with your graphic card or with your PDF viewer. But I tend more to the graphic card otherwise you would see the magic lines on the screenshot too.

- alfred -

[JamesPowell7164]

I have made the dwg smaller in size and included the pdf that I produced so hopefully you will get the same if you print!

[Alfred.NESWADBA]

Hi,

may be I miss something, but AutoCAD shows the same content as the PDF, I don't see extra lines in the PDF.

Here's what I see:

If I just don't see the issue can you please mark the position that is different?

- alfred -

[pendean]

I printed your PDF and DWG to two different brand Laser Printers and no extra lines showed up on any of the sheets.

Can you post a picture of the print-out and show us these 'extra lines" you speak of?

[Anonymous]

HI 

in drawing level, everything is ok.

So, I think printer machine is problem.

can you check by printing another file?

if you got same line in same place, printer is a problem.

[JamesPowell7164]

Guys

thanks for the replies - our scanner is down so I cant scan a printed page but when it is up and running I will scan an image and show you what it looks like.

I seems to occur with regards to polylines - it also seems to be affecting where I have put a fillet into a polyline , seems to isolate the fillet and show two lines (similar to creating a quadrant). This isnt shown on the pdf or drawing but again only shows when it is printed.

Be patient - I shall reveal what I see - thanks again

[JamesPowell7164]

Guys

this problem is becoming rather frustrating. I have managed to scan one of the hard copy drawings that I have produced. I have also attached the pdf file and the dwg file that it was created from. I really would like any advice on this.

I produced a rectangle using the rectangle button and then placed the circles in correct position. I struck lines down from quadrant points and then trimmed the rectangle and the circles using these these lines. I then joined all of the lines to create one polyline.

Printing to pdf shows nothing but printing to hard copy produces the extraneous lines.

Look forward to hearing from you with any ideas. 

[Alfred.NESWADBA]

Hi,

>> Printing to pdf shows nothing but printing to hard copy produces the extraneous lines.

Which printer/plotter did you use that creates this output?

And have you tried other devices or just one?

- alfred -

[JamesPowell7164]

Alfred

Thanks for getting back to me. In the office we use RICOH MP C5504ex machines. These have just been installed but we had tis problem on the previous machines - which were also Rich but I dont know the model.

EDIT

this happens printing directly to the printer from dwg and also from pdf. 

[Alfred.NESWADBA]

Hi,

any chance to us a none Ricoh device in your office?

- alfred -

[JamesPowell7164]

Yeah, I know where you are going. Unfortunately we dont have any other machines.

I think I will try to print it at home and see if the printer is the problem.

Others dont seem to be having the same problems though.

Thanks for your help though.

EDIT

Having said that why would it be the same when printing directly from dwg and pdf - they are two separate formats.

[Alfred.NESWADBA]

Hi,

>> I think I will try to print it at home and see if the printer is the problem.

Great, let's see what your result is then.

>> Others dont seem to be having the same problems though.

You mean "others .. using the same AutoCAD release and service pack and the same drawing and the same printer+driver"?

>> when printing directly from dwg and pdf - they are two separate formats

Other question: why does a printer print lines which seems not to be part of the PDF? I don't know and therefor we need to do our tests 😉

- alfred -

[pendean]

Is the ricoh-created PDF you posted a scan of your paper print?
I am able to print your clean PDF and your DWG file to an HP laser printer and a Sharp laser printer and I cannot reproduce the 'fuzzies' in place of the solid gray hatches here. I'm not sure having your CTB would make much difference, I use both NONE and MONOCHROME for testing here.

Does your ricoh generally have trouble printing solid hatches?

[JamesPowell7164]

Thanks Dean

The resultant scan is of a hard copy that  printed to the Ricoh (and was actually scanned by the same printer) but this happens if I print form Autocad OR make a pdf first and then print the pdf. However, as you observe, the pdf doesn't show the line between the arcs nor does the dwg???????

If you look at the scanned image there is a line between the two arcs that does not appear on the pdf nor the dwg. This is the problem line (see further attached file)

I think the "fuzzies" are just a result of the quality of scan (dpi) and not really related.

We have some sub-contractors that we use to fabricate certain items and they say that they don't have any similar problems, I don't know what printers they use mind.

I am  really confused with this one. 

[john.vellek]

HI @JamesPowell7164,

Since this print issue occurs in both printing from DWG and PDF I don't think the problem is AutoCAD. With that said, have you tried printing to the Ricoh with a generic driver instead of the Ricoh one? Perhaps try their Universal print driver too. Are you printing using PCL5, 6, PS? I would try one of the other types to see if the problem persists.

Another question for you, if create vector geometry in a different application and then print to PDF and then print to the Ricoh or directly to the printer do you see any of these anomalies?

Please select the Accept as Solution button if my post solves your issue or answers your question.

[JamesPowell7164]

My dear John

I am a mere design draughtsman - not a computer guru lol.

One thing I do know is that if we send the files to others then the lines seem to disappear when they print t their printers. It seems to effect just printing to our Ricoh machines but why would it effect both pdf and dwg?

I am afraid that the other info that you ask is beyond me - I appreciate your effort in assistance though.

[Alfred.NESWADBA]

Hi,

>> It seems to effect just printing to our Ricoh machines

Doesn't that is proof enough that this printer/driver has issues?

>> but why would it effect both pdf and dwg?

Because of defects in the driver or printer, you might find more issues when ever you print vectors to this printer.

- alfred -

[Anonymous]

I had this happening to me. Odd lines on prints that weren't in drawing. Straight lines directly across print.

It only happened when printing PDFs. And only through Foxit reader for some reason.When I printed them through Acrobat the lines weren't there.

Try printing through a different PDF reader and try printing it as an image through the reader.

[john.vellek]

HI @JamesPowell7164,

I am sorry if I overwhelmed you with my questions.

Please try this. Open a Word document and place a variety of shapes in it.  Then print to thee Ricoh and also print to a PDF and then print the PDF to the Ricoh.  Do you still see the extra lines?

You might even try to print a test page from the Printer Control Panel to see if you are getting lines.  This might actually be a hardware issue.

Please select the Accept as Solution button if my post solves your issue or answers your question.