Layer State List Bug 2024-2025

[sean.peterson83]

*UPDATE*

Problem solved: Apparently every time I had previously tried to drag the drop-down menu down to show everything at once (as pictured below), I never managed to drag it to the right at all. Grabbing the 3 dots in the bottom-right corner and dragging it a bit to the right made all of the invisible layer states show up on the drop-down....guess I need to make the layer state names shorter.

I teach AutoCAD, and have several students across multiple semesters who have had the following issue:

What I (and most students see)The issue for some

What they should see (Left)                 vs. What they actually see (Right)

This issue seems to randomly affect students, but for those for whom it is a problem it is consistent.

If I open their file on any of the various devices I use or own, the problem goes away.

If those who cannot see them in the pictured drop-down open the actual Layer State Manager, all of the Layer States are present and can be restored.

It has to be either a setting they have unintentionally changed or something off about their install. Students have in the past tried to uninstall and reinstall ACAD and to the best of my knowledge it never resolved. It also has happened to students in a different class who were using other verticals such as ACA 2024/2025

The layer states still exist in the LSM, and can be restored, edited, etc. from the LSM, but the dropdown within the Home ribbon tab > Layer panel > expanded options, this is what they see.

*EDITS*

per requests I've attached a copy of the student template as downloaded from the LMS that all of the students have access to, and the copy of a student's file which I know was not displaying them correctly (observed in classroom). The only edit I made to the file was to remove PII of the student (required by my institution).

[paullimapa]

If you're referring to AutoCAD Architecture you may want to post here to get better feedback:

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-architecture-forum/bd-p/248

[sean.peterson83]

I was not referencing ACA exclusively, the problem exists in both, but is a bigger issue with basic AutoCAD due tovtge number of students using each at any given time.

[paullimapa]

Maybe you may want to check to make sure all the stations AutoCAD versions have been updated to the latest.

2024.1.6 & 2025.1.2

How to update to the latest version of Autodesk software from a previous version

Also since 2026 is out you may want to install that and see if the problem still appears.

[pendean]

There is no fix for random if we all cannot recreate it: start by sharing your file and one from another student. None of us over here have been into any of your files and we can see things from the outside.

From your images and text alone... the few with the shorter list did not get your latest and greatest exported layer state files to import, or they started with a template file with the same exact name but pulled from an old source with a shorter list. Looks like a file management problem above all else. No bug.

[sean.peterson83]

I added a copy of the template they're using, downloaded directly from the LMS that they all use (only copy of the template they have access to), and the submission of one of their assignments with their PII removed (file name changed, title blocks deleted from layouts) to the original post. Best I can do on that front until I can get permission from one of them to upload one completely unmodified, as I'm not allowed to share their info with non-faculty.

[sean.peterson83]

I'll check their laptops during class today. I know it's up-to-date on all my devices, so not surprising that there are no issues when viewing their work on my devices. I've attached a copy of the template they use, and one of their assignment submissions from a student that I know had the issue on their laptop as recently as Apr 9. They're attached to the original post.

[paullimapa]

Both your dwt & sample dwg shows all the layerstates in my 2024.1.6 & 2025.1.2

You may also want to ask your students to run it from the command line to see if the dialog shows all the layerstates saved:

_LAYERSTATE

[sean.peterson83]

This is part of the problem, inside the Layer State Manager, all of them can see all of the Layer States.

This is admittedly more of a convenience issue that something that keeps ACAD from functioning. It is only in the expanded layer panel drop-down that they don't display visually. It is very strange because when the students show me that drop-down, the list doesn't stop at the last Layer State, it shows an equally long background, just with no text displaying.

I'll try to get a short .gif or other video during class this evening. Maybe that will make it more clear what the issue is.

[pendean]

@sean.peterson83 Are the ones that cannot see the pulldown list also running an active/specific LAYER FILTER that excludes layers by chance?

I am unable to reproduce any of the issues your students see in AutoCAD/ARCH 2023-2024-2025-2026 on my PC. Sorry.

[sean.peterson83]

Not that I've seen so far. I will verify that this evening though. It was one of my original guesses just because they're so easy for students to mistakenly enable. Just seems odd that they only don't display in the panel drop-down, but work in all other aspects.

[paullimapa]

I wonder if it’s graphics compatibility related since none of the computers you’ve setup at school have this problem but only shows up on individual students laptops

Perhaps have them do the following at the command prompt to see if it makes a difference:

GFXDX12

0

Thats a zero and then close & restart AutoCAD 

[sean.peterson83]

I didn't get a chance to test this solution, but the problem is solved. Apparently every time I had previously tried to drag the drop-down menu down to show everything at once, I never managed to drag it to the right at all. Grabbing the 3 dots in the bottom-right corner and dragging it a bit to the right made all of the invisible layer states show up on the drop-down...Guess I need to make the layer state names shorter.

[paullimapa]

glad you got that resolved...cheers!!!