isometric circle

[Anonymous]

One thing I like to draw is objects in isometric. Take for instance a structural frame grouping with columns and beams. I get very detailed, right down to the nuts and bolts.

I am having a very difficult time creating a circle so it is shown in the same plane. When a normal circle is created, from the point you start till the radius you want, you see the circle.

I want to create an isocircle so that I see it from the start. All it does is shows me a dotted line till the first click then it will show me the ellipse. And I cannot seem to make it work. 

I have watched tutorials, but they do not work for me. Even "Help" doesn't show me.  Can someone send me a link or a specific to the point step-by-step procedure.

Thanks.

[GrantsPirate]

While in an iso plane, start the ellipse command, note at the command line there is an option for isocircle, pick that, then pick the center point, move mouse, pick again.

[Anonymous]

The long axis of the ellipse if the diameter of the circle and the rotation of an isocircle is 60d

Enter the ellipse command

then C for center and pick the desired center of the ellipse, then the radius of the major axis, then R for rotation and finish with 60

Command: EL
ELLIPSE
Specify axis endpoint of ellipse or [Arc/Center]: c

Specify center of ellipse: <pick it>
Specify endpoint of axis: @1,0

Specify distance to other axis or [Rotation]: R

Specify rotation around major axis: 60

Note:

Setvar PELLIPSE controls the creation of a true ellipse or a polyline representation of an ellipse.

[Anonymous]

The interpretation line made me crack up, thanks for responding.

[imadHabash]

Hi,

>> I want to create an isocircle so that I see it from the start. <<

if you want to create 2D isometric drawing then you have to use ISODRAFT command line.herewith links that may give some help for you Link 1 /   Link 2 .

regards,

[Anonymous]

Thanks imadhabash, but I had already tried that route. I even found some on youtube that show that it is possible. The problem is that AutoCAD keeps updating its software each and every year. So every thing that you are simply used to, just becomes more complex. The software developers need to stop making things simpler for themselves, and start thinking about the not-so-brainiacs.

Here is an example: Hatch - I used to be able to click the Hatch command and the selection of hatches appears. Now you click Hatch and a complete Tab would open, then you would have to click Hatch again to see the selections. Before, you used to be able to click Hatch and it would automatically give you that tab at the same time the selections are visible. They just made double the work and double the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNjqkKlCGBc

Type this address in and you will see this is what I want to do. You actually see your progress as the isometric circle you are drawing. AutoCAD program updaters' are making things more difficult.

[Anonymous]

This kind of works, but not to my liking. The problem is that AutoCAD keeps updating its software each and every year. So every thing that you are simply used to, just becomes more complex. The software developers need to stop making things simpler for themselves, and start thinking about the not-so-brainiacs.

Here is an example: Hatch - I used to be able to click the Hatch command and the selection of hatches appears. Now you click Hatch and a complete Tab would open, then you would have to click Hatch again to see the selections. Before, you used to be able to click Hatch and it would automatically give you that tab at the same time the selections are visible. They just made double the work and double the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNjqkKlCGBc

Type this address in and you will see this is what I want to do. You actually see your progress as the isometric circle you are drawing. AutoCAD program updaters' are making things more difficult.

Watch this video. You will see the evidence that the process you explained is time consuming. Also if you miss a step, you have to start over and keep trying till you get it right. Do me a favor and watch the video - then tell me Autodesk tech team is not screwing things up.

[SEANT61]

I know this does not specifically address the problem as stated in the original post, but, if you do a lot of isometric drawings, it may make sense to explore the various methods/addins out there that assist the process.  Here are some screencast illustrating some options:

[SEANT61]

Another option:

[imadHabash]

Hi,

>>  I used to be able to click the Hatch command and the selection of hatches appears. << 

this behavior relate to your RIBBON status :

• if it's active RIBBON (ON)   : type H from hatch then choose T from SeTtings option to appear the hatch dialog.
• if it's closed RIBBON (OFF) : type H from hatch and immediately the hatch dialog appear.

Note: RIBBONCLOSE command will close the ribbon and to make it active again just type RIBBON command.

>> The problem is that AutoCAD keeps updating its software each and every year. << 

maybe some how i agree with you especially when you said "every year".upgrading and developeing AutoCAD must be take another plan by AutoDESK to let users and people feel enough and realize the new things.

Good Luck...

[Anonymous]

That screen-cast alone is impressive. You are very knowledgeable of the programs. I am afraid to ask how long you have been working with them. If I was younger, I would take extensive classes directly from Autodesk; but as you might understand, the younger generations can absorb information as well as understand how to intensify their knowledge of the programs better than I. 

Thank you for responding, I will inevitably look into learning what you expressed if my job required it. But as of now, it is kind of a hobby to draw in isometric; mostly because is contains a certain challenge.

[Anonymous]

So you already knew the answer to your question, you just wanted to gripe about annual updates??  Thanks for the time waste.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for your response earlier. Just so you know, your process did not work. I tried different ways.

I don't appreciate your sarcasm; that way a poor attitude you had portrayed. It can be frustrating trying to do something that used to be easy, then somebody changed it. 

Please type in the youtube address I provided in a previous post, watch the video and you will see the complication your process is.

By the way, I took yours and others defense when someone else was sarcastic at you, (3D modeling)

[RobDraw]

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@Anonymous wrote:

The problem is that AutoCAD keeps updating its software each and every year. So every thing that you are simply used to, just becomes more complex.

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Like that's a bad thing.

Statements like that are usually made by people who resist change. Not a good thing in the software world.

BTW, the solution in that video is quite simple and serves as a great example of the way that AutoCAD makes drawing easy.

[Anonymous]

You asked a question to which you already knew the answer and did so as a ruse to merely complain about the application.  The sarcasm (and more) were more than warranted, you wasted the time of people who are here to help those who want help, only to gripe about the application.  Next time instead of pretending you want help, be honest and just open up with a gripe and save everyone's time.

The method shown in the video is hardly complicated, if you think so, you might wish to consider a different line of work, a ten story equipment structure containing some million pounds of steel and 9 miles of pipe will fry your circuits.   But even then the video goes to great links to make something appear difficult that is, in reality, quite simple.  All the line drafting is unnecessary just to draw the ellipse, unless you need the lines anyway for the object.

I need no defense, my methods have been in use in 3D production for 30 years  .... building ten story equipment structures with a million pounds of steel and 9 miles of pipe.  I'm a big boy I can handle a little sarcasm.  If you're going to continue playing bait and switch you might want to get used to it.

[neaton]

Just watched the video and had a good laugh. It took twice as long to copy and paste all the lines. I hope you are using direct input and osnaps to reduce the number of steps. CLT-E switches the isoplane from Left, Top or Right. As you can see in the Screencast the ellipse iso circle appears as you enter it, there is no dotted line unless you forget to select Isometric in the ellipse command.

I am not sure why you need to select Hatch twice to get the tab to appear. Mine appears when the Hatch command is started.

If you are doing this for fun you might want to try creating your drawings using 3D. It is a lot of fun and with all the Youtube videos out there it is pretty easy to learn even for folks like me who started drafting before ACAD was invented

Nancy

[RobDraw]

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@neaton wrote:

Just watched the video and had a good laugh. 

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So, you find it funny that someone took the time to illustrate how the command works within an isometric drawing environment?

You do realize those lines are for illustration purposes only and are not necessary to use the command?

[neaton]

@RobDraw, I am sorry if I offended you. There is no commentary with the video so I don't know the extra steps are for demonstration purposes.

This wasn't about the person taking the time to do a video as it was the state of what schools are teaching. I see many users out of school that are taught long, complex ways to do things. By the time a student is doing isometric circles they should have been taught to use osnaps and direct input effectively.

Nancy

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@RobDraw wrote:

So, you find it funny that someone took the time to illustrate how the command works within an isometric drawing environment?

You do realize those lines are for illustration purposes only and are not necessary to use the command?

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[Kent1Cooper]

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@Anonymous wrote:

.... When a normal circle is created, from the point you start till the radius you want, you see the circle.

I want to create an isocircle so that I see it from the start. All it does is shows me a dotted line till the first click then it will show me the ellipse. ....

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@GrantsPirate's suggestion in Post 2 -- ELLIPSE command when in Isometric mode, Isocircle option [which doesn't appear when you're not in Isometric mode] -- is exactly what you want, unless your problem is actually something different from what you describe above.  You replied about his sign-off line, but haven't indicated yet whether it works for you [or whether you've even tried it, nor have you marked it as the Solution, but I believe it truly is].

[Anonymous]

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@RobDraw wrote:

You do realize those lines are for illustration purposes only and are not necessary to use the command?

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And that is the problem with the entire video, all the extra manipulation was merely an attempt to make the production of an ellipse seem MUCH more complicated than it really is.  Cut out all the unnecessary BS and look what it REALLY takes to create an ellipse and the OP's entire premise evaporates.  It was nothing but a ruse to complain about the application.