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FLATSHOT of 3D Entities at Hi Coordinates

oliverd
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FLATSHOT of 3D Entities at Hi Coordinates

oliverd
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We have clients with High Plant Coordinate Locations in the Real World, i.e. X=10,000'-0"(+-), Y=10,000'-0"(+-), of which we model at the actual coordinates. We have had no issues thru AutoCAD 2010 in FLATSHOT'ing 3D entities through MVIEW's (Viewports) into Layout's (Paper Space) until we updated to AutoCAD 2017. Suddenly, when we attempt to run FLATSHOT the 3D Entities, which should convert to 2D entities in the Layout, just disappear. We were told to contact Autodesk concerning "floating point math" being used to calculate distance from 0,0,0 causing rounding errors in 3D Modeling at larger coordinates. We have had no issues with Modeling at the higher coordinates so far. We are having issues only when we try to use FLATSHOT. Again this function still works in AutoCAD 2006 through 2010, but for some reason in 2017, it does not. Before the suggestion comes up "to just move the model closer to 0,0,0,", that is not an option. We have years worth of projects and models that depend on the xref'd locations to remain static where they are. Any help would be much appreciated.

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Alfred.NESWADBA
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Hi,

 

why running _FLATSHOT today? What are you doing with that type of (destroyed) geometry? Maybe we can find workflows that fits better nowadays.

 

Also please upload a drawing, so we can play with our systems with your drawings. Could be we find another reason?

 

- alfred -

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Anonymous
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I sorta agree with Alfred ... stop using FLATSHOT.

 

If the model is already properly located why FLASHOT??  Why not just annotate the model??

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oliverd
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To provide our clients with electronic 2D versions of the layouts without
having the models attached as xref's. Is flatshot not the only way to pull
the model entities into the layout, then detach the models, so the client
doesn't get the error message looking for the xref's and to keep the file
sizes of the layout drawings to minimum.
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Anonymous
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If the client is dead set against using the application to its peak efficiency, then I'm not worried much about his file sizes.  Bind the XREF's during eTransmit.

 

Unless he has provided sufficient budget and schedules for monkeying with a model to provide a 30 year old product.  If he is willing to write the check, I'm willing to waste his money.

 

BUT, if you're only providing 2D cartoons of the model why not move the XREF closer to the origin.  The model lives where it must but the XREF doesn't need to. 

 

 

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Alfred.NESWADBA
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Hi,

 

>> To provide our clients with electronic 2D versions of the layouts

Depends on which types if objects you do have in the layout, viewports or baseview-objects.

You might try command _EXPORTLAYOUT (could be 3D) or command _PLOT to DWF or PDF? Both, DWF and PDF hold the content of the layout (or multiple layouts if created with _PUBLISH) can then be referenced to new drawing.

 

- alfred -

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Alfred NESWADBA
ISH-Solutions GmbH / Ingenieur Studio HOLLAUS
www.ish-solutions.at ... blog.ish-solutions.at ... LinkedIn ... CDay 2025
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(not an Autodesk consultant)

Anonymous
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Thanks Alfred, I had assumed he meant "2D DWG versions", a PDf is an electronic version of the layout.  We provide PDF's until project completion, the transfer the DWG files to the client at mechanical completion.  We have a few clients who refuse to accept anything with a reference (for some reason), for them we bind the XREF's using eTransmit or DWGTRUEVIEW (convert). 

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