External reference update balloon notification reports wrong user

mkincaid
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External reference update balloon notification reports wrong user

mkincaid
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In Release 2021 I have noticed that when an Xref gets modified, the balloon notification that pops up to tell you that it has been modified by, is reporting the wrong user name? Has anyone else noticed this random anomaly?

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ABELLAA
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I get what you're saying but I can also guarantee that switching to "read only" while you're in the file happens when I'm the only one in the file. How can I say that? The project has restricted access so only authorized personnel can work on it and it logs who/when people are working on it. 

 

I would forward though the transcript of this forum to our IT Department and let the person in charge of dealing with Autodesk reach out to them regarding this matter.

 

Appreciate your response! 

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dgauerDED75
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In my case we are not using DFS for that exact reason.   We have only one server at a central location.    Staff with poor connection to the central servers can use Remote Desktop. 

I would not recommend anyone to use DFS without some sort of 3rd party locking.   Even with a 3rd party locking software I personally would not trust the locking.    

 

I am too looking at BIM Collaborate pro,   but have excellent results so far with the new desktop connector.

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saughtry
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I really appreciate everyone's responses!  It's nice to know there are others trying to solve this also.

 

We are not using DFS.  We only have one office location, one central file server (and it's a Windows network share).  We are using a mapped letter drive (we all use the same letter).  We aren't working remotely or accessing these dwg files via cloud-based storage.

We also aren't using any of the other things @PaulTOB mentioned (NAS, Linux server farm) - but I agree 100% with @PaulTOB's reasoning and that with those would come issues as described.

 

With the balloon xref notification issue.. At first we thought it was giving out random usernames.  But it became a lot easier for us to pinpoint after one notification it gave us said a username of someone who was longer even working at our company.  That's when we realized it was reporting the username of the person who saved it 2 times ago, not the most recent saver's username.  Then it became clear why it appeared to be working sometimes and not others.  Because often you're saving multiple times while you're working on it.  So after that first balloon notification goes out with the previous saver's username, then the next time the balloon goes out it will say your username, even though it's still broken.  But once another user goes into that xref and saves...the problem starts over.

 

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pendean
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@saughtry Judging by your other post(s), you folks have a lot of issues going on all of a sudden

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-forum/files-not-opening-as-read-only-for-colleagues/m-p/12289... 

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swellsNVJRK
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Our office is having all of the issues discussed in this thread. Reporting the wrong user most recently updated an Xref (usually one or two saves back). File locking issues; one we are having is where one user has a drawing open, a second user intends to open the file as read only and simply double clicks the file to open it and it open without being read only. Now two users have the drawing open without a lock. We have also been having issues where it appears some changes disappear a save or two later. We haven't determined if this is related to the file lock issue. Autodesk needs to step up and work on this issue.

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murray-clack
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One of my coworkers was experiencing the issue about the xref notification bubble displaying the wrong user.

He told me he was opening the xref via the xref palette, and then saving the drawing by clicking the X and saving when prompted.

We SEEM to have resolved the issue by opening the xref via the network (OPEN command -> Navigate to network folder -> select file, click Open), and then using the SAVE command (instead of Ctrl+S or simply closing the drawing), and the problem seems to have gone away.

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pobrienFNE96
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That's very interesting! QSAVE simply edits an existing file. SAVE creates a brand new file when invoked, and so Windows would record a new "Created by" entry with the new file.
Only drawback is that QSAVE takes a second, while SAVE requires a dialog box interaction.
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pendean
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@pobrienFNE96 wrote:
...Only drawback is that QSAVE takes a second, while SAVE requires a dialog box interaction.

You can turn off FILDIA variable if you don't want a pop-up.

Or customize with LISP.

 

But you'll still have/need a prompt to give your new SAVE file a name unless you want to always use a generic one and risk over-writing it.

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MSmithPEC
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Guessing issue is still not fixed?  It would be awesome if basic functions worked correctly. 

 

Our company never had this problem in C3D 2020 but EVERYONE (55+ users) has it in C3D 2023.  It doesn't just affect xrefs either, WHOHAS reports the wrong person too, and attempting to open a drawing someone is already in reports the wrong person as well.  

 

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pendean
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@MSmithPEC wrote:

Guessing issue is still not fixed?  It would be awesome if basic functions worked correctly. ...


Where do you all store your files?
And how is everyone connected to that source?

 

and have you had a chance to see this on the topic from Autodesk yet

https://www.autodesk.com/support/technical/article/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/WHOHAS-command-sho... 

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MSmithPEC
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We get that "unknown" user issue occasionally even in the prior version we were all on (C3D 2020) but usually it's just with certain files and (I assume) when our network has a hiccup.  Usually it's temporary and happens so infrequently we don't consider it a big deal.

 

*I care less about that and more about being able to know who is currently in a file or who last saved it - for my company, C3D seems to be reporting the previous file opener/saver, not the current one.  It appears to be 1 (possibly 2) user behind.  **This is super important so I can track down kids who f up files and either shame and/or educate them so it doesn't happen again.

 

I should add we never had the "wrong user" issue in C3D 2020 and our network drives have not changed since switching to a new C3D version.  We switched to C3D 2023 last February as I always keep us at least 1 year behind to ensure all the major bugs are worked out.  I have applied all the latest patches in the hopes one has an unpublished fix but no dice.

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dgauerDED75
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I can confirm this issue still happens with Autodesk Construction cloud with  both AutoCAD and Civil 3D.

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