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Drawing circle with diameter 7917 miles to find drop

trickyK3C2L
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Drawing circle with diameter 7917 miles to find drop

trickyK3C2L
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Hey guys & girls I'm not an Autocad guy and I've downloaded a trial version to see if I can do the drawing and figure out the math BUT its harder than I thought. 

I wanted to draw a circle with a diameter of 7917 miles, then at the top draw a 2 mile long line that starts and finishes on the circle, then measure the drop of the line at points 1/4 mile, 1/2 mile, 3/4 mile to see how far the drop is in inches.

is this possible to be done in Autocad.

Thanks in advance 

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trickyK3C2L
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Hey Kent thanks heaps for the support on this project.

I have been advised that the braided line does not stretch, but im awating conformation after being advised it does.

I will be trying to get a braided line that can be pulled tighter, & I will start at 1 mile, & then move up for a 2 mile test.

If it sages I will be left wondering, as I cannot tell sag vs globe water bulge, but from laser and camera tests, I have not found any curvature anywhere, so i doubt it will appear here, but who knows.

 

I will download the file & have a look.

 

The dam im trying to get to will have no ripples as its enclosed with high enough walls on a calm day to not bother the test, and I was there yesterday & it was like glass, ready for barefooting, so should be easy to see the bulge.

Thanks again guys

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Kent1Cooper
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@trickyK3C2L wrote:

.... I will be trying to get a braided line that can be pulled tighter....

If it sags I will be left wondering, as I cannot tell sag vs globe water bulge, but from laser and camera tests, I have not found any curvature anywhere....


"If" it sags?  You're never going to be able to pull any line tight enough to not sag, because you can never achieve infinite tension.  The formula for sag relative to length and tension:

Kent1Cooper_0-1729088086009.png

requires that the denominator of that fraction is infinite to achieve a resulting sag value of zero, which means the Tension must be infinite.

 

You don't describe how you did your laser and camera tests, but...  Just set up a laser 4" above water level and see if it can hit a target 2 miles away also at 4" above water level.  With about 8" of rise between, the rise will block that shot.

 

[As for "putting this argument to bed" etc., greater minds than yours or mine have long since proven that there's no argument.]

Kent Cooper, AIA
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trickyK3C2L
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Hey matey without sounding too positive, it’s all lies and programming to make us believe a narrative that’s just a lie. For example it only takes a few minutes with an open mind to realise all history is a lie, as it’s impossible to design and engineer then build the massive structures we see all around the world with horse and cart as transport and hammer and chisel as tools, eg who made the footings and engineered them to be still standing today, who made the concrete, who made the roofing, who carved out thousands of exactly the same statues, who lifted them up to the top, the list goes on, and the answer of lesser minds is how they get us to accept their story as truth and lose our common sense.
Go to flat earth Dave as he has 3 bitcoins up for offer for one proof of the globe,
So I tried to debunk it and was going to win his money and could not prove the globe with evidence.

Thanks again guys

If anyone wants to stay in touch or is curious to chat more drop me an email

@trickyK3C2L - this post is being edited to remove PII.

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trickyK3C2L
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Well there you go again,

I thought maybe just maybe people using these in-depth programs with the ability to think would be able to help and be open minded and if questioned be smart enough to at least look, but it didn’t take long until one started to attack my intelligence and make remarks of the lack of it,

Sad to see but normal for all replies I get due to the attitude of people,

Sorry to disappoint
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trickyK3C2L
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RSomppi this platform is not the place for these discussions, nor ego's, but lets not miss your first reply with an attack direct or indirect at these flat earthers being of even "lesser minds" that have figured it out where we live.

That my friend is a direct attack and whilst you say its not directed at me, I knew it was & let it go, and replied as a mature adult, without attacking back at you.

 

Your next comment outlines your continued attack as once you figured out I was investigating the narrative we have been sold as I didn't believe it, & was not after another "Mousetrap" you let me know I no longer impressed you, so once again narrow minded.

 

Anyway my email is in this chat, so save it on your file as once enough information comes out that crumbles the space ball spinning marble, drop me an email to apologise.

 

PS There are two types of people 

1. One, who when presented with evidence against what we have been told, goes out to prove or disprove it with real life experiments and their own tests...... ME

Very sad 

 

@trickyK3C2L - this post has been edited due to Community Rules & Etiquette violation.

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trickyK3C2L
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Hey matey I will be looking into all of the parameters and testing as I explained and if I cannot get the right answer without sag I will disregard the test.
As for better minds already doing this, I don’t believe that’s true, as when I or others test for curvature it cannot be found anywhere, and I’m talking from 2 miles at sea level to 700 miles from a mountain, and then from 1500 miles from 40,000ft in an aeroplane, so once you think about it without the programming at a common sense level, there is an issue.
Photos like this and many others cannot exist if we live on a sphere, as this has 50 miles of missing curvature.

[IMG_0522]
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RSomppi
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There was no attack intended on my part as I understand the science. Any other interpretation of my words is fiction. I truly thought you were trying to prove a global earth. I wouldn’t have joined the conversation if I thought for a second that you were trying to prove otherwise. I will be removing my previous comments.

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Kent1Cooper
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@trickyK3C2L wrote:
.... if I cannot get the right answer ....
Photos like this and many others cannot exist if we live on a sphere, as this has 50 miles of missing curvature.
....

No honest investigator goes into any experiment with an idea of what "the right answer" is.

 

Your photo did not attach.

 

Can you see the North Star from Australia?  [Just one simple example from the link in my previous Reply.]

Kent Cooper, AIA
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trickyK3C2L
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Sorry it appears the picture didn’t attach, so I don’t know
Give me your email address and I will send to you, or email me 

As I said from the beginning I’m doing this to cement and stop all arguments, and I don’t need to do it to prove it’s flat to me as I’ve already proven it over and over again for 3 years now.

The problem with your last statement is we have been trained to believe we should be able to see forever……

Have you ever stayed in the massive hotels is Vegas……

You cannot see the other end of the hallway as the floor merges with the roof and the side walls also merge into each other blocking out everything, and it’s not until you start walking down the hallway you realise there is a cleaning lady and trolley at the other end.

So if you cannot see the other end of a long hallway, how do you believe I can see the North Star from Australia when the sky merges into the floor the same as the hallway

Ps Once you see the truth you won’t be able to forget it and you will wonder how you were tricked all these years

@trickyK3C2L - this post is being edited to remove PII.

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Washingtonn
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If one believes that the earth is flat, one should provide definitive proof for that hypothesis instead of requiring proof for a globe.

 


@trickyK3C2L wrote:

As I said from the beginning I’m doing this to cement and stop all arguments, and I don’t need to do it to prove it’s flat to me as I’ve already proven it over and over again for 3 years now.

The problem with your last statement is we have been trained to believe we should be able to see forever……

Have you ever stayed in the massive hotels is Vegas……

You cannot see the other end of the hallway as the floor merges with the roof and the side walls also merge into each other blocking out everything, and it’s not until you start walking down the hallway you realise there is a cleaning lady and trolley at the other end.

So if you cannot see the other end of a long hallway, how do you believe I can see the North Star from Australia when the sky merges into the floor the same as the hallway

Ps Once you see the truth you won’t be able to forget it and you will wonder how you were tricked all these years

@trickyK3C2L - this post is being edited to remove PII.


Based on your logic, if you can't see the end of a Las Vegas corridor so you shouldn't be able see the north star - how can we believe you can see something 14 miles away (further than said corridor) on the opposite shore as confirmation that the earth is flat?

Provide proof, with any assumptions used, that the earth is flat such that others can replicate your experiment.

 

 

 

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leeminardi
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@trickyK3C2L 

Consider the following factoid:

The towers of the Verrazzano-Narrows Bridge in New York City are 1 5/8 inches farther apart at the top than at the base: 
 
The distance between the towers is 4,260 feet, and the towers are 693 feet tall. The towers are spaced apart this way to account for the curvature of the Earth. If the towers were parallel, the bridge would collapse. 
lee.minardi
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richard_387
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@ leeminardi wrote

 ....... If the towers were parallel, the bridge would collapse.

 

I think I can put your mind to rest. The towers would not collapse if they were parallel. I think the site team would be delighted if each of the towers were within 1" of being plumb. When you consider the loads from the suspension cables over the saddles, those towers are not going anywhere!

 

I can confirm part of Eratosthenes' test as I was in Aswan in June a few years ago, and I remember that the street light poles had no shadow at midday.

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trickyK3C2L
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Hey matey so sorry for the late reply,

I’m sorry but I do not agree with anything you said in relation to bridges falling down if they were not made to account for earth curve, as no bridge or canal or railway or road has ever been made with earth curve in the design, never happened in any lifetime that has recorded plans
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trickyK3C2L
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Hey matey I agree with the towers

The no shadow thing works perfectly on both models as flat earth has a close sun, so the results are the same, directly under sun has no shadow and to the side shows shadows, so this is not a proof of any model.
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Washingtonn
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Bless your heart....since you didn't respond to my latest post i'll restate it.

Provide proof (with assumptions) that the earth is flat instead of soliciting and dismissing proof the earth is a globe.

While you are at it, provide proof for a close sun - again, along with any assumptions used.

 

Better still, let the topic rest until you can report your findings from your string experiment with no sag.

 

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Valentin-WSP
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@trickyK3C2L ,

 

I appreciate your interest in using AutoCAD to prove your hypothesis.

 

Although it's gotten a bit off the software topic, your comment in message 21 "from laser and camera tests, I have not found any curvature anywhere, so I doubt it will appear here, but who knows" makes me think you would enjoy the documentary "Behind the Curve".

 

The documentary details ideas of the flat Earth from different perspectives, including prominent flat-Earthers Mark Sargent and Patricia Steere, as well as astrophysicists from universities including UCLA and Caltech.

 

In the film, flat Earth advocates carry out experiments to test the hypothesis that the Earth is flat...

 

SPOILER

 

Additionally, on message 23 you mentioned "Go to flat earth Dave as he has 3 bitcoins up for offer for one proof of the globe", but proof or evidence may still not convince him - LINK. Maybe take a look at another Dave, Professor Dave

 

 

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trickyK3C2L
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Sorry matey been away in Fiji for a wedding, so not enough service to log in & reply,

Go check out www.flatearthdave.com<> & do some research, as its all there.

OR check out his short list,
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEzivhxtxgbv2hEBOrfkjHnRnpbH9hlXR


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